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2004-04-06 Thread Kim Willing
Dear OSLIST! It's been a while since I've been in touch! I am writing in a brief moment while both children (ie; the reasons why I haven't been in touch for a couple of years) are asleep as I am embarking on my first Open Space facilitation for this year in a couple of weeks. I must tell you som

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2004-04-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
Hi Kim: A couple of thoughts. Kim Willing wrote: Also, even if only 250 come to the Friday morning session, would it be unwieldy to use 15 dots each, and given that there may be many more topics than with a smaller group, I'm wondering whether it might be better to ask people to just list thei

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
Larry Peterson wrote: I do think that “givens” are a myth, a social construction, at least at one level of consciousness. However, most of my clients have some substantial social constructions, including the “theme”, which gives shape, direction and boundaries to the self-organizing they want

Re: the Big Dump

2004-04-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
Rafael Mier wrote: I was wondering how different OST practitioners do their inner preparation in order to be a calm source of harmony during the event. Almost all the things I do have actually been lifted from or connect me to the people on this list, and I have a bunch of little rituals like

Opening Space for a Closing World

2004-04-06 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Harrison-- Reading your post and Chris's response, I finally understand what you mean by opening space in our lives. Thank you for the revelation, Harrison and Chris! To answer your challenge, Harrison: What I have been doing to open space in people has been to post my insights (which are often p

News from OSI-France

2004-04-06 Thread Dominique Proudhon
Hi everyone, A quick message to let you know that we held last week the first Open Space on "Creating the French Open Space Institute": 10 of us met in Paris on March 31st and agreed on status, basic principles, and an initial plan of action to build the Institute. The status should be regist

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-06 Thread Larry Peterson
Kerry How do you determine the "theme" with a sponsor? Are your themes always about creating the "future" from a blank piece of paper? I do think that "givens" are a myth, a social construction, at least at one level of consciousness. However, most of my clients have some substantial social con

Re: Mali

2004-04-06 Thread Romy Shovelton
Michael this is very odd it won't open - even from direct link. Do you think it's anything to do with using Apple Safari? xxx Romy On 6 Apr 2004, at 09:37, Pannwitz, Michael M wrote: here is the direct link http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/osmap.swf just tried it works Mali is in the list of

Re: Opening Space for a Closing World

2004-04-06 Thread TYASTO
Dear Mikk, I was very impressed by your letter. Especially by your wish to organize a vision conference about the future of Estonia. I was twice in Estonia and have some friends there. If you would need any help from Russian speaking facilitator of Open Space Technology, Future Search Conference, G

Re: the Big Dump

2004-04-06 Thread Harrison Owen
Good luck -- but you really don't need it. The folks are already there. And the only thing to keep in mind is just be your (authentic) self. If you are nervous, that's OK. If you miss a line . . .not to worry the folks will figure it out. Being yourself is the most important thing. harrison Harri

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-06 Thread Harrison Owen
Elwin -- you have described my way perfectly. Having the conversation is great -- always keeping everything open to outcomes. I remember sitting with an anxious sponsor before a meeting who was so concerned that the "right" issues would not emerge. I invited him to write down what he thought were t

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-06 Thread kerry napuk
Harrison I am very wary about expectations. Because expectations usually are based on fantasies and rarely are realised, they are barriers to experiencing the "here and now" and do not allow for surprises. I never forgot the Law of Reciprocal Expectations: Negative expectations produce negati

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-06 Thread Harrison Owen
Red Ink Seems fitting. I guess. As I am still seeing through a glass rather darkly (How did you like that ?) I am not quite sure where we are - if anywhere. But I always love being with you all. ho Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20845 Phone 301-365-2093 Ope

Re: the Big Dump

2004-04-06 Thread Rafael Mier
I'm new to the list, and it's wonderful to realize that the space is being opened in so many places by so many people will be a pleasure to meet more members of the list. I have seen Harrison open space twice and, like when observing pro's playing tennis, it looks so easy and smooth. I am pr

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-06 Thread Chris Weaver
hi kerry, chris, michael, harrison, i'm enjoying the direction of your thoughts! the type of givens i've found to be really useful are about things like the terms of existing relationships with partner organizations (especially when they are elegant!), previously-agreed-upon processes for organiz

Re: settings

2004-04-06 Thread Michael Herman
passion bounded by responsibility, michael... http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html only you can make that change. Michael A Catalano MD wrote: i want to switch from regular mail to digest mail, please. -- From: Michael A Catalano MD To: osl...@listserv.boisestate

Re: News from OSI-France

2004-04-06 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
Congratulations, Dominique, Genevieve, Christine and others who met last week in Paris, on your emergent OSI-France! I'm very excited for you and for the world. Christine Christine Whitney Sanchez Triune Milagro, LTD 2717 E. Mountain Sky Avenue Phoenix, AZ 85048-8990 milagr...@cox.net 480.759.02

Re: Mali

2004-04-06 Thread Michael Herman
my safari loads it fine, romy. try the safari preferences, maybe java settings? images settings? sorry i don't know more. mh Romy Shovelton wrote: Michael this is very odd it won't open - even from direct link. Do you think it's anything to do with using Apple Safari? xxx Romy On 6 Ap

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-06 Thread Elwin and Joan
Kerry said: >“I do not like the idea of sponsors saying ahead of time what is and >what is not possible BEFORE an event even happens. So, we never discuss >them unless they are raised.” I do find something very useful in dealing with the sponsor’s “givens” however, and that is what I gain from lis

settings

2004-04-06 Thread Michael A Catalano MD
i want to switch from regular mail to digest mail, please. -- >From: Michael A Catalano MD >To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >Subject: new email address >Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2004, 6:48 PM > >old address: mca...@nilenet.com >new address: mca...@ionsky.com > >* >* >=

Re: back to work...

2004-04-06 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Thanks, Michael--it was new idea to me, and I wondered if we had ever clarified the point. Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl..

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-06 Thread Michael Herman
not so fast, mister... this seems to fit any org that measures success primarily in money terms and 'combats' the tide with more and more detailed plans, limits and controls. all kinds of organizations are prone to measuring abundance and refining controls. seems one of the benefits of coloniz

Re: wholeness and action in the pot of community

2004-04-06 Thread Birgitt Williams
I hope there is more conversation on this topic and for us on the list to find a way to make a decision together, figure out our purpose and so on. I'm hoping that there is passion for a discussion that will sort this all out. For me, the input to date has been about ideas and opinions which could

Re: Hierarchies, decision making and a real-life example

2004-04-06 Thread chris macrae
Chris Corrigan wrote Measurement uber alles is tricky because it immediately privileges the quantifiable over the qualifiable. And certainly, we need to measure things, but I'm leering of forcing qualitative experiences into measurement-friendly formats. By necessity it strips what is most import

Re: Opening Space for a Closing World... healing

2004-04-06 Thread Ashley Cooper
dear harrison, as is often the case, i am moved by the movement that you inspire and invite. as for opening space for a closing world, i tend to be drawn to the one-on-one route. i like to dive in as quickly as possible and open my own space in efforts to heal and grow myself and mirror such hea

Mali

2004-04-06 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
here is the direct link http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/osmap.swf just tried it works Mali is in the list of os countries mmp On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:06:03 +0100, Romy Shovelton wrote: >oops... can't get the map to open Any ideas anyone? > > >xx Romy > Michael M Pannwitz boscop Draisweg 1

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
kerry napuk wrote: How did we end up in red ink and small type? Seems that is a bigger question about the future of the corporate world! (sorry...) :-) Chris * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To sub

the Big Dump

2004-04-06 Thread Harrison Owen
I pity any person who has just joined this list, particularly if they are adverse to receiving a bunch of mail. I don't know who pushed what button, but this AM I had 42 messages in my OSLIST box. Nice to know everybody is out there. Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland

Re: AW: Open Space experience with African countries

2004-04-06 Thread Romy Shovelton
Michael thanks for your thoughts and the grin i'm using Safari... do you think that might effect the map opening? xxx Romy On 6 Apr 2004, at 09:26, Michael Herman wrote: the map loaded okay for me, romy... using mozilla browser. i can tell you that mali is blue! so somebody 'round ther

Re: Hierarchies, decision making and a real-life example

2004-04-06 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
Dear ho, if you still have problems figuring out swamp-life to read Pogo. mmp On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:19:17 -0500, Harrison Owen wrote: >Wonderful to see you back online, Peggy -- and to know that the Sun actually >shines in Seattle. As for your discussion on COSMOS etc -- I think we need >more SWA

AW: Open Space experience with African countries

2004-04-06 Thread Change Management Toolbook
Hello Mayke, I am back from South Africa, where we had a training course on Essential Consulting Skills, including a half day Open Space introduction (with three times slots of 45 minutes each). It worked extremely well and participants who came from South Africa, Zimbabwe, Uganda and Kenya liked

Re: Opening Space for a Closing World

2004-04-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
mikk sarv wrote: Next week we are celibrating this day, 14th of April as Outdoor Learning Day. The day is opened by our Minister of Education and Minister of Environment. For the period from 14th of April till 14th of October all schools, kindergardens and universities try to run as much as pos

Re: Hierarchies, decision making and a real-life example

2004-04-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
chris macrae wrote: Chris Macrae For 20 years researching social and organisational identities I was weary about measuring organisational relationships, but then the mathematician in me woke up. Measurements don't just determine wh

Fwd: AW: Open Space experience with African countries

2004-04-06 Thread Romy Shovelton
oops... can't get the map to open Any ideas anyone? xx Romy Begin forwarded message: From: Romy Shovelton Date: 6 April 2004 09:03:30 BST To: OSLIST Subject: Fwd: AW: Open Space experience with African countries Hi all I shall be in Mali in August, for a ten-day intensive training on

Fwd: AW: Open Space experience with African countries

2004-04-06 Thread Romy Shovelton
Hi all I shall be in Mali in August, for a ten-day intensive training on NVC (nonviolent communication) with Marshall Rosenberg. Apart from taking time to play with camels (one of my real loves!) and visiting the Dogon peoples if appropriate I'm wondering whether anyone has been opening

Fwd: New Sight

2004-04-06 Thread Romy Shovelton
hi there dearest HO didn't pick up the note at the end of your email about the sight thingy. sending huge love and cool healing thoughts to remove the b pokers... just pondering whether we are more in-sightful, when we close our out-sightful eyes for a while can't imagine how yo

Re: Why do I not get anymore list mails?

2004-04-06 Thread Mayke Wagner, essence
Everything back to normal again. When I turned on my computer this morning, I had over 60 OSLIST mails. I have no idea why an what happened. I will check with my provider after I talked to him yesterday about the problem - maybe he has an answer! It sure feels good to be back in the community! Hap

Re: AW: Open Space experience with African countries

2004-04-06 Thread Michael Herman
sorry, romy. my safari loads it okay. but glad to know you're a mac girl! maybe try it again? or maybe you have a different java setting than i do. check the safari prefs? i thnk i allow most anythign to load. more openness, right? mh Romy Shovelton wrote: Michael thanks for your

Re: Fwd: AW: Open Space experience with African countries

2004-04-06 Thread Michael Herman
the map loaded okay for me, romy... using mozilla browser. i can tell you that mali is blue! so somebody 'round there's got a few ost tricks. i suppose mmp will know who that would be. good luck! ten days of nvc... yes, i guess that would be an intensive. might even change your dna. goodne