Re: a question

2004-07-20 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Raffi-- People do and will present lectures and trainings in Open Space, and some of these sessions will be effective. If this is the intention, might be good to say so. But I suspect that the elaborate boundary-setting that you suggested might rub people against the grain a bit, once they hav

Re: point of non-intervention

2004-07-20 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 7/19/04 9:06:54 AM, k...@auryn.nl writes: > To me, the essence of Open Space is all about reminding. Reminding people > of something they already know and can do. > Well said, Koos! Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boises

Re: OSLIST Digest - 18 Jul 2004 to 19 Jul 2004 (#2004-195)

2004-07-20 Thread Ralph Copleman
At what point is the space opened? Hmm.. Perhaps space is always open and what we do is nothing more than focus people. For a time. On one theme. Ralph Copleman * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subs

An explicit invitation to live in OS beyond OST

2004-07-20 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Zelle-- I think you and Harrison and I are saying the same thing. When Harrison writes: << But why do we REALLY do it? My answer to this one would be -- to << enable folks to see themselves as they really are, and fully appreciate << their wholeness. when Zelle writes: << another step toward

Is there a need to hold space for people to ask the question, "what'

2004-07-20 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Artur-- Thanks for your wonder! What do you mean by "Evolution... is never conscient to the species that follow ... it"? Teilhard seems to me to hold that evolution has become conscious of itself in humanity. We are therefore life reflecting on itself. Do you agree? Where would you take it from

Re: OSLIST Digest - 18 Jul 2004 to 19 Jul 2004 (#2004-195)

2004-07-20 Thread Ashley Cooper
At what point is the space opened? Hmm.. Perhaps space is always open and what we do is... facilitate an opportunity for others to see and experience that the space is always open. focus people. for a time. ashley > [Original Message] > From: Ralph Copleman >> At what point is the space opene

Re: Is there a need to hold space for people to ask the question, "what'

2004-07-20 Thread Artur Silva
Doug --- "Douglas D. Germann, Sr." <76066@compuserve.com> wrote: > Artur-- > > Thanks for your wonder! > > What do you mean by "Evolution... is never conscient > to the species that > follow ... it"? > > Teilhard seems to me to hold that evolution has > become conscious of itself > in humanity

Re: Is there a need to hold space for people to ask the question, "what'

2004-07-20 Thread R. Duff Doel
My take on this is that during the process of evolution, the evolving entity is unaware of it but may become aware of past evolution upon reflection. The only exception to this would be when there is a "revolutionary" change (or sudden, dramatic mutation) and in this case it is obvious to the whole

storytelling/training/learning sessions in OST

2004-07-20 Thread Zelle Nelson
Joelle, Raffi, My wife, Maureen and I facilitated an Open Space where we used special post-its (tree and flower shaped) to indicate that certain sessions would be in a story-telling or training format with one primary speaker. We explained in the invitation and the opening circle that sometimes w

Re: conscious of evolution as it evolves. . .

2004-07-20 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
I think some people are conscious of evolution as it evolves and some of those people tell others what they perceive. For the rest of us, sometimes we believe and integrate what the people who are conscious of evolution share and sometimes we don't. All people are not all at the some evolutionar

Re: OSLIST Digest - 18 Jul 2004 to 19 Jul 2004 (#2004-195)

2004-07-20 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
Yes, yes, Ashley. . . space is always open. A facilitator reminds us. >From: Ashley Cooper >Reply-To: ashcoo...@earthlink.net >To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >Subject: Re: OSLIST Digest - 18 Jul 2004 to 19 Jul 2004 (#2004-195) >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:32:37 -0500

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AW: storytelling in OST

2004-07-20 Thread Visuelle Protokolle
storytelling can be a very interactive element in OS. Recently in Oberursel I proposed a group session about story telling and fairy tale drawing. It went like this: I opened the session proposing my idea, and when it was accepted, everybody sat down to invent a short storyline. The storyline

Re: AW: storytelling in OST

2004-07-20 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Reinhard-- What fun! And what a great way to bring everyone into the activity, bringing everyone past the feeling that he or she is "not really creative." A favorite game with my granddaughter is to sit down and draw while she tells me what to draw and spins a story about the growing picture.

Is there a need to hold space for people to ask the question, "what'

2004-07-20 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
duff-- Welcome! Glad to see you posting here. Will look forward to more from you, duff << we are now able to question this need to cull the mutation. If we << can learn to overcome this then the species may in the near future, << experience dramatic evolutionary leaps. Is this perhaps an