Re: Principles, Process, and People

2005-03-14 Thread Seamus McInerney
I once came across a saying that went a bit like this: It is the function of all great teachers to make things complicated enough for people to understand. I heard it from a guy called Paul Solomon and he had some very clever things to say. I have an 18 year old son who is currently studying (or

Re: Research Reminder

2005-03-14 Thread Bob Dick
The website for the Journal of Applied Behavioral Science is at http://jab.sagepub.com/ Cheers-- Bob -- +--- Bob Dick ---+ | bd...@scu.edu.au Action research resources at: | | http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/gcm/ar/arhome.html

Re: Principles, Process, and People

2005-03-14 Thread Elwin and Joan
--- Seamus McInerney wrote: > I once came across a saying that went a bit like this: It is the > function of all great teachers to make things complicated enough for > people to understand. That statement was followed by an outstanding presentation (the 18 year old son studying for exams..."if p

Re: Principles, Process, and People

2005-03-14 Thread Harrison Owen
Luis Wrote: "If people arrives to the same process and outcomes without mentioning them the principles and the law, that does not means that they (principles and law) are a part of the territory and not of the map?" I guess. But what I was really talking about is our articulation of principles and

Re: Principles, Process, and People

2005-03-14 Thread Juan Luis Walker B.
I'm in accord with Chris, but what are you trying to say me Harrison? I dont know if I understand the meaning of "our articulation of the principles and the law". By "being the being, as it were" do you mean that we should be in complete silence, focused in the freedom of the territory that we as f

FW: Research Reminder

2005-03-14 Thread Larry Peterson
I thought I had sent this to the list. Sorry Larry Larry Peterson Associates in Transformation Toronto, ON, Canada 416.653.4829 la...@spiritedorg.com www.spiritedorg.com -Original Message- From: Larry Peterson [mailto:la...@spiritedorg.com] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:26 PM To: 'Th

sheer fear here

2005-03-14 Thread Lucas Gonzalez
Ok, I'm sure this has been dealt with before on this list, and I think I know what an answer would look like ... but I'm not sure and I would welcome some comments. Experts http://www.who.int say we might have a flu pandemic with "zillions sick, millions dead, all socioeconomies disrupted". They

Re: Subject: Principles, Process, and People

2005-03-14 Thread Glory Ressler
I'm with you, Pat... including OST facilitators modeling trust in the people (and their processes) AND the Principles/Law giving them 'permission' them to trust themselves... Support on both ends - which, for some with 'baggage', represents a challenge. Best wishes, Glory - Original Message

Re: Principles, Process, and People

2005-03-14 Thread Juan Luis Walker B.
Thanks Harrison for your profound and challenger reflection. My two cents on it: If people arrives to the same process and outcomes without mentioning them the principles and the law, that does not means that they (principles and law) are a part of the territory and not of the map? Juan Luis *

Re: Principles, Process, and People

2005-03-14 Thread Chris Corrigan
I think that's right Juan. Just for fun I've done a handful of Open Space Tech meetings without talking about the principles and the law. It works fine. I am a practictioner of Harrison's challenge to find one more thing not to do in terms of the process, but ironically I find myself adding to my

Re: Research Reminder

2005-03-14 Thread Chris Corrigan
I agree, which is why our research is being published online and for free, in two different formats moreover. Even if you aren't right now conducting research (and I am by the way, with two projects in the hopper) you can follow our findings on the research weblogs at: http://osrappreciative.blog

Re: OSLIST Digest - 12 Mar 2005 to 13 Mar 2005 (#2005-71)

2005-03-14 Thread Pat Black
I don't have any experience working in a corporate environment but have more than thirty years of experience doing community organizing and grass roots political organizing. I am not sure my experience can be transfered to a corporate setting but here goes. I have found when people come together

Re: Research Reminder

2005-03-14 Thread Agneta Setterwall
Thank you Tenneson - and do you have a www adress to that journal? Best, Agneta Setterwall, Sweden Tenneson Woolf wrote: Hello Friends. I have not followed this research thread completely. However, for those interested, The Journal Of Applied Behavioral Science (JABS) just published a special

Re: Research Reminder

2005-03-14 Thread Harrison Owen
Bob wrote: "The website for the Journal of Applied Behavioral Science is at http://jab.sagepub.com/"; I am sure it is a great issue, but I discovered that the entry fee is a little on the high side. $25 for one article and $75 for the whole enchilada. Not exactly open space. Harrison Harrison O

Re: Principles, Process, and People

2005-03-14 Thread Harrison Owen
Elwin Wrote: "None of this works without People AND Common Interest." Absolutely! It is always about "those who care to come." Voluntary self-selection is, in my experience, the only workable way. People "in general" are an amorphous blob -- and in my lexicon "The People" (capitolized) are those w