whatever one says,people do whatever they want to do anyway

2006-03-06 Thread Filiz Telek
This is the newest principle for OS that Funda and I are proposing.after our experience in OS yesterday :-) Ok, just around the days when we have been contemplating on "whatever happens is the only thing that could have", I will share with you a brief reflection on this open space we experienced,

Re: whatever one says,people do whatever they want to do anyway

2006-03-06 Thread Erich Kolenaty
Filiz, sometimes it happens, that people appreciate conversations, but are not ready or willing or able to act. People are happy with what they picked out of the sessions for themselves. In this cases a convergence session does not make any sense. When it's over, it's over, may be another time.

A Quiet Time

2006-03-06 Thread kinch
My goodness what an excellent thread! I'm no longer sure how it started but no matter; much warm and wise sharing felt and received from many different traditions (can one call Wilber a tradition yet?). Thank you. In the touching conversation on touching, I don't think I saw the word "invite" a

Re: whatever one says,people do whatever they want to do anyway

2006-03-06 Thread Birgitt Williams
Hi Filiz, In order to be able to assist you in your thinking, and you have said you wish practical help, there is more information that I would like to have from you. 1. What was the role of the sponsor? The sponsor actually opens the space for the facilitator to facilitate the OST meeting,

Re: whatever one says,people do whatever they want to do anyway

2006-03-06 Thread Funda Oral
OST has worked; 34 issues were posted, 12 action plans were anounced and we (all the group and us) learned many things. Filiz, although she is not aware of that, was wonderful! Funda - Original Message - From: Filiz Telek To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Monday, March

Re: whatever one says, people do whatever they want to do anyway

2006-03-06 Thread Jack Ricchiuto
Filiz and Funda, It sounds like your OS on public transport was very productive ... The only thing that could have happened did. It¹s my experience in open space that I don¹t decide what people are ever capable of when I invite them to invite others into conversation about what matters to them. I

OSonOS Moscow update

2006-03-06 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
Dear colleagues, Unfortunately, we are not in a position yet to make an official announcement for the 14th International OSonOS in Moscow August 4-6. We are in the process of determining and settling upon a conference venue. We are looking at a few sites and once we have finalized this we will mak

Re: A Quiet Time

2006-03-06 Thread Tree Fitzpatrick
thanks, Winston, for reminding us of the word 'invite'. -- Warmly, Tree Fitzpatrick Hearthkeeper * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...

Re: A Quiet Time

2006-03-06 Thread Birgitt Williams
I too like the word invite which goes right along with the 4 principles and one law. All of it assists people to really understand how valuable their personal energy and wisdom is and that they should not stay in any situations within which their energy is not resonating. Easier said than done for

some recent bigotry on this list

2006-03-06 Thread Tree Fitzpatrick
We were having a nice conversation on this list called 'a quiet time'. . . and then Paul posted a couple of nasty phrases that stung me. He wrote derisively about 'extreme individualism', making it feel to me, in a very ugly way, that he does not think it is okay for people to try to get their nee

Re: some recent bigotry on this list

2006-03-06 Thread Tree Fitzpatrick
Paul, I did read Birgitt's entire post. Just because all of the participants at Birgitt's event had bipolar or schizophrenia, you had no reason to make the bigoted assumption that when on member voiced anger and pain she was 'clearly mentally unstable'. It has never been the custom to publish pri

Re: some recent bigotry on this list

2006-03-06 Thread Tree Fitzpatrick
Just because 'everyone at an event has bipolar or schizophrenia" no one free of ignorance and bigotry would assume an expression of anger meant mental instability. On 3/6/06, Tree Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Paul, I did read Birgitt's entire post. > > Just because all of the participants at Birgitt'