Re: whatever happens...

2007-04-23 Thread Chris Corrigan
Not much to add to this font of wisdom except perhaps to say that this principle is also the one I struggle most with. In that sense it is the basis of my practice. I present it as an invitation to follow threads. If we feel as if the conversation should be going in one direction and the passio

Re: whatever happens...

2007-04-23 Thread douglas germann
John-- How about "Whatever happens is the only thing that did"? :- Doug. On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 18:22 -0700, John Engle wrote: > Hi fellow listers. > > I know that some have been through this hundreds of times but I'm > wanting to get the most recent reflections on the pr

Re: whatever happens...

2007-04-23 Thread Peggy Holman
I did a search of my OSlist archive. The last time this subject came up in depth was in 2001! I've copied some excerpts below. A new insight for me on whatever happens is that it helps reframe disonnance, disturbance. I know now that perturbations in a system are a sign that something new is

Re: Copy of Notes for everybody?

2007-04-23 Thread ICA Taiwan
Catherine, The first time I facilitated an OST program in 2000 for an insurance company the participants and support team were aghast at the amount paper (and work) it would take to distribute documents for 100+ participants. So we did it by email, the kind of practice we continue. Some org

Re: 1-day OS with action planning

2007-04-23 Thread Communications Esther Matte
What a great metaphor! Thanks :-)) At 18:03 2007-04-23, you wrote: Lisa et. al.: You're into the heart of it I think when you raise these issues at the outset. The first conversation I have about the Open Space with the client is always about the need. Sometimes it's even a light hearted

Re: Copy of Notes for everybody?

2007-04-23 Thread cliodhna mulhern
Thanks to Chris and Thomas I enjoyed this exchange and got a few useful tips from it.  I loved your mindmap Chris and your photographs. Cliodhna Mulhern flowstone +44(0)7929 328513 On Mon Apr 23 17:41 , Chris Corrigan sent: My current practice, similar to Thomas's, is to ask each group

Re: whatever happens...

2007-04-23 Thread Elwin and Joan
--- John Engle wrote: > I know that some have been through this hundreds of times but I'm > wanting to get the most recent reflections on the principle: > > Whatever happens is the only thing that could've. John et al, My take on this Principle is, and always has been, drawn from what I believ

Re: whatever happens...

2007-04-23 Thread John Engle
these are great! thanks for your affirmations, lisa, and for your reflections alan and doug. no one will ever be able to argue or dispute, "whatever happens is the only thing that did" i can't even say it without a grin and chuckle. that's a good sign. i look forward to learning what others th

Re: whatever happens...

2007-04-23 Thread Lisa Heft
John wrote: We've been experimenting in Haitian Creole and in English with this: What Happens is what happens - learn and move forward. Here's an example of a text that would explain this principle: This principle helps us to not lament over should'ves, to not wallow in regrets. We're all responsi

whatever happens...

2007-04-23 Thread John Engle
Hi fellow listers. I know that some have been through this hundreds of times but I'm wanting to get the most recent reflections on the principle: Whatever happens is the only thing that could've. My colleagues in Haiti and I continue to have smart people from a variety of cultures let us know

Re: Imposed Structure, Self-Organisation, Ritual

2007-04-23 Thread Harrison Owen
Scott Love it! Back in my "early days" back when I was writing and thinking a lot about myth, ritual, culture, story etc. I coined a phrase I really liked. "Mythos manifests Spirit." I used the Greek "mythos" as sort of a catch basket for myth and ritual - for the simple reason that myth is spo

SV: Copy of Notes for everybody?

2007-04-23 Thread Thomas Herrmann
Hi Gail! And Catherine Most of the times now I let participants write their reports on flip-charts, make digital photos and send via email, usually the next day or so. At times, especially during longer meetings including action-planning we do copies for all but many time they can stand reading at

Re: 1-day OS with action planning

2007-04-23 Thread Chris Corrigan
Lisa et. al.: You're into the heart of it I think when you raise these issues at the outset. The first conversation I have about the Open Space with the client is always about the need. Sometimes it's even a light hearted kind of thing :"You want to have an Open Space? Are you crazy? What do

Re: What to do with 1.5 to 2 hours

2007-04-23 Thread Chris Corrigan
Nice Larryreally sweet. I love the way you bring the energy and the generative nature of the conversation to another level with this. Thanks for the inspiration. Chris On 4/19/07, Larry Peterson wrote: Peggy you asked: I'm intrigued with this approach as a very creative way of handli

Re: Spontaneous Open Space at CFAN

2007-04-23 Thread cliodhna mulhern
Andrew...hello back to you.  What a great story.  Well done to you. Cliodhna Mulhern flowstone +44(0)7929 328513 "When people in leadership begin to serve a vision infused with a larger purpose, their work shifts naturally from producing results to encouraging the growth of people who produce

Re: Posting notes on a wall/hard copies of notes

2007-04-23 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
I agree with others who have recommended asking the client, as they will know their special needs, and what is expected in that organization. There is something quite amazing, however, in having a copy of the notes in hand by the end of the meeting, or on everyone's desk or e-mail the next mor

Re: Imposed Structure, Self-Organisation, Ritual

2007-04-23 Thread Scott Willard
Harrison, I really appreciated your thoughts on community. I referred to community as pseudo for the "obvious" reasons of OST creating a contrived, short-term, and focused communal boundary. As I reflect more on this, I see that I applied some obviously falty logic. You would have been just

Training Opportunity

2007-04-23 Thread Cassandra O'Neill
I wanted to let the group know about a training opportunity and also ask for feedback. My business partner and I are offering a two day training on a model of sustaining organizational and community change that we developed called Evolutionary SustainabilityTM. We have released a white pap

Re: Imposed Structure, Self-Organisation, Ritual

2007-04-23 Thread Scott Willard
One thing that I would add to the definition of ritual is that ritual is all about spirit. I just finished reading The Healing Wisdom of Africa- great book. I believe it was by P.M. Some' and he states very clearly that ritual is an opportunity for spirit to impact the lives of the observant.

Copy of Notes for everybody?

2007-04-23 Thread Catherine Pfaehler
Dear all Do you always offer a set of notes for every participant? I experience resistance to the production of so much paper occasionally and would like to know how you handle this. (I am not a friend of notes on CDs - their production is not quicker than paper copies, and many can't look thro

Posting notes on a wall/hard copies of notes

2007-04-23 Thread Helen Bishop
In a message dated 4/23/07 9:25:32 AM, tho...@openspaceconsulting.com writes: > many time they can stand reading at the newswall which also gets creativity > going in a special way > > Dear Open Spacers, I use a wheelchair or scooter when I'm in public spaces that involve any kind of di

Re: Tuning the bass note: a story from an organization using Open Space in an ongoing way.

2007-04-23 Thread Larry Peterson
I agree that is a great story Chris. The growing consciousness of the CEO is a delight and the impact of OST to enable the whole to practice that collective and individual connection to the base is marvellous. What kind of organization is it? What sector of work? Larry Larry Peterson Associat

Re: Copy of Notes for everybody?

2007-04-23 Thread Chris Corrigan
My current practice, similar to Thomas's, is to ask each group to take notes but then summarize their group on a single piece of flip chart paper. We can post these as a gallery of proceedings and photograph them as well. Then we action plan by having people review those posters and identify what

Re: Tuning the bass note: a story from an organization using Open Space in an ongoing way.

2007-04-23 Thread Chris Corrigan
Hi Larry... It is a national Aboriginal organization, working in the area of political and community development. They are focussed on helping First Nations in Canada implement governance that serves the expression of collective inherent rights. It's no big secret, but I didn't ask them if it w

Re: Spontaneous Open Space at CFAN

2007-04-23 Thread Harrison Owen
Well done Andrew! And now you understand that you have been working much too hard. But of course with a bunch of facilitators who earn their living, to say nothing of their sense of self worth, by "working hard," this could be a problem. Just imagine the creative confusion that might evolve if ever

Re: Copy of Notes for everybody?

2007-04-23 Thread Harrison Owen
From: Harrison Owen [mailto:hho...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:55 AM To: 'c.pfaeh...@bluewin.ch' Subject: RE: Copy of Notes for everybody? Catherine - In defense of trees I simply ask participants if they want hard copy. Most seem to, some don't, and in any event it is all onli

I, Open Space Facilitator

2007-04-23 Thread Andrew Ballance
Having now as someone aptly put it 'lost my OST virginity', I wanted to pay my respects to the people mainly responsible for getting me here. All the great people at boscop worked very hard to set up what was an unforgettable learning experience. They brought together a wonderful group of people

Imposed Structure, Self-Organisation, Ritual

2007-04-23 Thread Andrew Ballance
Hi again! On the subject of my writing.. When it rains, it pours.. I didn't want to clutter the previous post with too much reflection and interpretation. [If you didn't read the previous post, you need to, or you might not know where this is coming from] There appeared to be a polarity at pla

Spontaneous Open Space at CFAN

2007-04-23 Thread Andrew Ballance
Hello to you all, Two weeks ago I found myself holding space in Mojmirovce, Slovakia, for the second Global Gathering of the Change Facilitation Associates Network (CFAN, www.change-facilitation.org). This was the first Open Space event I have facilitated, and it wasn't on the agenda 24hrs befo

CSR and OST

2007-04-23 Thread Jean-Francois Gouin
Hello, CSR stand for Corporate Social Responsibility and it is a growing approach to management. I am quite convinced, that Open Space is a powerful tool to bring socially responsible practises within corporations. Many of you on this list have practised this for many years so there isn't anything