Re: whatever happens...

2007-04-24 Thread Alan Stewart
Hi John, Lisa and All My 'take' on this is that whenever people come together to treat each other well the only thing that could happen is that magic emerges ... Is this fatalism? My most recent experience of this was last week when Arun Wakhlu from Pune came to visit with me for a few days.

Re: Posting notes on a wall/hard copies of notes

2007-04-24 Thread Catherine Corbaz
Dear Helen, thanks a lot for your observation. I work partime for a swiss association, which reprensents the interest of handicapped people. Last year we orgnisez an open space with aboiut 40 people of many different handicaps. We put the poster and everything in order that small stature p

Re: Imposed Structure, Self-Organisation, Ritual

2007-04-24 Thread Harrison Owen
From: Tania Ashworth [mailto:tania.ashwo...@aad.gov.au] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 8:07 PM To: hho...@verizon.net Subject: RE: Imposed Structure, Self-Organisation, Ritual [Sec=Unclassified] Scott, At present I am learning how to live within the community where I have facilitated two Wor

Re: whatever happens...

2007-04-24 Thread Harrison Owen
It is interesting (funny, odd, strange) how words, once casually spoken, take on a life of their own, and somehow or another possess a depth of meaning that was totally invisible in the moment of speaking. The phrase, "Whatever happens is the only thing that could have," was just a throwaway, but i

FW: [OSLIST] whatever happens...

2007-04-24 Thread Harrison Owen
From: Deborah Hartmann [mailto:debo...@hartmann.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:23 AM To: hho...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [OSLIST] whatever happens... > Life, of course, is filled with throwaways. Some stick around and others depart. The wording of this makes me think of the (apocryphal?

Re: Imposed Structure, Self-Organisation, Ritual

2007-04-24 Thread Nancy Wells
Interesting topic... form exists as long as there is life ... we create form in as many ways as we choose... and... ritual is, in my mind, only of value if there is a deeper understanding of what is behind the ritual call it spirit, call it nature, call it unity...  if one is just 'going throug

Re: Imposed Structure, Self-Organisation, Ritual

2007-04-24 Thread Harrison Owen
Nancy - For sure the world is filled with dead rituals along with their cousins, the myths. That is just what happens when Spirit moves on. But just because we have some dead ones does not invalidate the class. Myths and rituals (what I call Mythos) are profoundly useful if only because they form t

Re: Imposed Structure, Self-Organisation, Ritual

2007-04-24 Thread Andrew Ballance
Wow, I love where this discussion has gone. I really appreciated Tania's story said about how spirit is preserved outside of the ritual space... in the ongoing story of a system. In these last two posts, I have been prompted to reflect on this polarity/interaction/tension between what Harrison