Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Lisa Heft
Hi, all. I love this sharing of experiences about grid versus zero grid versus things in-between. I tried out a grid some years ago and used it for a few times, thinking it reduced a step (zero post-its - you simply bring your topic sheet up to the wall and place it). And then I stopped b

Re: Video on Open Space

2009-08-04 Thread Suzanne Daigle
Peggy, The two videos were terrific; just downloaded them. I can't wait for you to complete your research on Engaging Emergence which goes hand in hand with Open Space. So many themes I can relate to including science, change and the laws of nature, disturbance, hospitable conditions, angst, humi

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear Fabian, a "grid" is always useful. Regardless of how the bulletin board is set up (an empty wall, a highly structured grid with spaces measured out so an issue poster will neatly fit into it, etc.)a "grid" will emerge, more or less selforganized. There may be no bulletin board in the tradit

Re: Video on Open Space

2009-08-04 Thread JL Walker B.
Sorry Peggy, just now I have see your response to Elisabeth. All fine and thanks you very much. Juan Luis * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives

Re: Video on Open Space

2009-08-04 Thread JL Walker
Dear Peggy: I’m sad. When I go to your links that you reported below, this is the message that appears: Veoh is no longer available in CHILE. If you are not in CHILE or think you have received this message in error, please go to veoh.com and report the issue. Do you know why? Apprec

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Jack Martin Leith
I'd like to add a couple of points: 1) Why have a "rule" about this? Different events call for different mechanics. 2) From what I've seen, BarCamps have a grid and no Post-its. At the BarCamp I was part of, it never occurred to the organisers that they could add another column to the grid and t

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Harrison Owen
I knew we would lure Michael Pannwitz into this conversation :-) Indeed it is an old and rich conversation. And somewhere in there should be told (retold) the tale of the 2108 German Psychiatrists. Michael alludes to it, but the real fun (for me) happened when the group totally blew away our (Micha

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Harrison Owen
Well Jack - No rules, near as I can tell, but it is always good to talk about effectiveness and workability. And in the case of grids I have always found them not all that effective and marginally workable. Your point about the BarCamps makes the case I think. ("At the BarCamp I was part of, it ne

Invite to National Story Conference : Melbourne Australia

2009-08-04 Thread Andrew Rixon
Dear All, With Open Space being a fertile ground for story I thought you might be interested in hearing of this conference. On October 8 and 9 in Melbourne we will hosting one of the first national change oriented story conferences themed “Celebrating Story: Approaching change one story at a time

Re: Fwd: Video on Open Space

2009-08-04 Thread Gail West
Thanks Peggy. Much appreciated. Gail In response to Elisabeth's message that she couldn't open the link in Venezuela, Jim Rough made the videos available through yousendit for 7 days (below). (Message 1 of 2) Peggy __ Peggy Holman The Open Circle Company 1534

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Steven "Doc" List
I've used the grid almost exclusively, working with a predominantly technical audience. At one OS, someone else facilitated when I wasn't available, and went gridless. The feedback I got was that the attendees missed the grid. Which doesn't say that grid is better, just that it works well

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Larry Peterson
The only "grid" I use is the one I put the post-its on. I prefer the free form posting of topics on the wall, and maybe some splitting of Day 1 and Day 2. For me, the chaos at the wall is intentional and if its not there, then the benefits of being at the "edge of chaos" are not achieved. People

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Jon Harvey
Erik I have mostly created grids using making tape which certainly looks more like a 'standard' agenda - rows for time slots and columns for places. That is their main value I think... However I have experienced several difficulties: 1) Merging and combining discussions becomes a bit constrained

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Kaliya *
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Harrison Owen wrote: > Actually the "grid" is a late arrival inflicted upon us by those with an > orderly mind. I specialized in bringing interactive processes including open space to technical audiences who by default ARE orderly. I am continually given suggesti

FW: Bruce RE: OST and Page County high school kids- Leadership Retreat

2009-08-04 Thread Harrison Owen
Bruce Lundeen is a friend in Harrisonburg VA - and it was he who got the good mayor of that city started down the Open Space pathway. Not to be content, he is now in the process of infecting the school system. Seems to be working as you can see from the following. Harrison Harrison Owen 18

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
I've done it every which way, depending on the size of the event, timeframes and the group itself. If the group is small enough, I like to do the grid with the post-its on it. At the 2005 Girl Scout convention, I was worried that with nearly 2,000 participants, it would take too much time

Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?

2009-08-04 Thread Harrison Owen
Actually the "grid" is a late arrival inflicted upon us by those with an orderly mind. Personally I never use one (grid) which probably says an enormous amount about my mental state. It is true that participants will occasionally offer to straighten out the mess (put everything in time slots, etc.)