Re: re honouring each other

2009-11-28 Thread Michael Dobbie
hello all! just for the record (so my voice is somehow captured on this topic)... in all these years on the list (maybe 8 or 9 years now of mostly just having to listen) i have not found this listserve and it's format to be welcoming to me (easy to use) in a way that "invites" me to co

Re: Roll Call: Present

2009-11-28 Thread Elisabeth Tepper
Present with all my love Elisabeth Venezuela --Original Message-- From: Elizabeth Phillips Sender: OSLIST To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ReplyTo: OSLIST Sent: Nov 24, 2009 12:54 Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Roll Call: Present -Original Message- From: OSLIST on behalf of Erik Fabian

Re: Self-Organization & the Nobel Prize?

2009-11-28 Thread Ria Baeck
Hello all, Has anyone an article Œat hand¹ that tells me the essence of this? (rather than me searching the net) > Ostrom showed how common resources ­ forests, fisheries, oilfields, grazing > lands and irrigation systems ­ can be managed successfully by the people who > use them, rather than by g

SV: Power, hierarchy, and OS

2009-11-28 Thread Thomas Herrmann
...and I really like how well you (HO) have described people sitting in a circle for an OS-meeting - sitting at the edge of chaos - I really think that is true - and it does something to hierarchies of all sorts. I get these questions once in a while too, based on assumptions that this or that gro

SV: A minor point - perhaps.

2009-11-28 Thread Thomas Herrmann
Sounds like a great topic went up and was worked through thoroughly – to me! IT ALWAYS WORKS! Hehe Thomas PS You are playing in the top league now – remember Lisa Heft was the only one once too! Anyone else with such an experience – and what did you do? DS _ Från: OSLIST [mailt

Re: Self-Organization & the Nobel Prize?

2009-11-28 Thread douglas germann
Harold-- That is good stuff! Thanks for alerting us. :- Doug. On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 23:54 -0700, Harold Shinsato wrote: > This news is a month old, but I got it from an message from a friend > last month which the holidays are finally letting me catch up with in > my email inbo

Re: Power, hierarchy and OS

2009-11-28 Thread Harrison Owen
"I often get the question from managers "would'nt it be better if we stayed out of the conversations?". Katia - the "never-fail" response for such managerial questions is, "If you have no value to add, you definitely should stay out." Seems to catch them at an odd point. Harrison Ha

[RE]SV: A minor point - perhaps.

2009-11-28 Thread Kathie Wallace
Hi Everyone, I also had a gathering where no one showed up. I spent the hour loving myself fiercely. It was one hour of wonderful golden light, peace and joy for me once I quickly dropped my "poor me" response. Many years ago I understand that when I was the only one driving through the mountain r

Re: Power, hierarchy and OS

2009-11-28 Thread Katia
Raffi, thank you for the reference to the OS Idea Book (and Lisa for writing it!). I was just about to post a question about whether such a document exists. I often get the question from managers "would'nt it be better if we stayed out of the conversations?". I love it when they raise this point, b

Re: Self-Organization & the Nobel Prize?

2009-11-28 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
Harold, I am present again, still, feeling great appreciation for what you have shared and whAt we all share. Christine Sent from my iPhone On Nov 27, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Harold Shinsato wrote: This news is a month old, but I got it from an message from a friend last month which the h