Re: Hosting and holding space

2010-07-07 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Thanks Wendy and Doug, got it. Facilitating ost events is a professional role and activity for me, I make a living at doing this. In some situations, I was closer to the issues and the "business question" than in others (I faciliated a series of ost-events in the highschool that all of our six

Re: Hosting and holding space

2010-07-07 Thread doug
Pat-- That is an evocative picture! Thank you for taking me in a different direction. :- Doug. On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 13:29 -0500, Pat Black wrote: > Interesting question Wendy. The difference between hosting and > holding space is where my attention goes. Holding spac

Re: Hosting and holding space

2010-07-07 Thread doug
Michael-- When you were host and facilitator, what did you want to see happen? Please be specific to each event, if you are able. I'm wondering if there was some attachment to outcomes and how that might play into it. But saying they will take care of themselves seems to be too easy an answer. N

Re: Hosting and holding space

2010-07-07 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear Pat, somehow I missed the "interesting question" that your referred to. I looked through all the recent posts and did not find Wendy's question. What was it? Greetings from Berlin where not a car or person nor a cat or dog is on the streets... mmp Pat Black schrieb: Interesting question

Re: High profile UK Gov meeting using OST

2010-07-07 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi all Here is my report back: http://jonharveyassociates.blogspot.com/2010/07/big-society-report-on-networ k-meeting.html An OK start - but not a good advert for Open Space sadly! Ah well - onwards and upwards! Atb Jon From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu

temple bells - how to use?

2010-07-07 Thread Karolina Iwa
from facilitating wikisym2010 in gdansk, poland, i am writing with a question: many of us - including me - use temple bells during os events to attract participants attention. anybody knows the full code of respectful use of the bells? i would appreciate your contributions to decreasing my ignora

Re: Hosting and holding space

2010-07-07 Thread doug
Michael-- I think Pat was responding to my question, to which Wendy was also responding. My question is below Wendy's reply below. :- Doug. On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 21:34 +0200, Michael M Pannwitz wrote: > Dear Pat, > somehow I missed the "interesting question" that your

Re: Hosting and holding space

2010-07-07 Thread Pat Black
Interesting question Wendy. The difference between hosting and holding space is where my attention goes. Holding space by attention is only on the space and what it requires. In hosting I attend to the beings inside the space and what they need to thrive in the space. Pat Black On Wed, Jul 7,

Re: Hosting and holding space

2010-07-07 Thread Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
Hi Michael, To clarify, it was Doug who asked the question. My post was a response to it. Doug's post is below: W On 7-Jul-10, at 12:34 PM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote: Hi-- In a recent post, http://chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/?p=2839 Chris Corrigan says "there is no outside." Chris has

Re: High profile UK Gov meeting using OST

2010-07-07 Thread Lisa Heft
Thanks for your reflections, wonderful Jon. Is there a way you can connect with the organizers to help them know of better design (and proper naming ;o) for dialogue events in future? Lisa On Jul 7, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Jon Harvey wrote: Hi all Here is my report back: http://jonharveyassoc

Re: Any suggestions for Open Spacers in South Africa?

2010-07-07 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear Andrew, try this http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/ click on South Africa see two experienced colleague that might be interested or know of others in their country Cheers mmp Andrew Rixon schrieb: Hi All, With a management event coming up soon here in Melbourne, our client is interes

Hosting and holding space

2010-07-07 Thread doug
Hi-- In a recent post, http://chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/?p=2839 Chris Corrigan says "there is no outside." Chris has got me thinking again of the interplay of hosting and holding space. As I see it today, holding space means having a view towards the health of the whole system that is in the

Any suggestions for Open Spacers in South Africa?

2010-07-07 Thread Andrew Rixon
Hi All, With a management event coming up soon here in Melbourne, our client is interested in Open Space being part of a similar event in South Africa Who would you recommend? Warm regards, Andrew -- Andrew Rixon PhD Director Babel Fish Group Pty Ltd Skype: AndrewJRixon Mobile

Re: Hosting and holding space

2010-07-07 Thread Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
Mu ;) w On 7-Jul-10, at 8:47 AM, doug wrote: Hi-- In a recent post, http://chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/?p=2839 Chris Corrigan says "there is no outside." Chris has got me thinking again of the interplay of hosting and holding space. As I see it today, holding space means having a view

Re: temple bells - how to use?

2010-07-07 Thread Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
Hi Karolina, Originally ting sha bells are used in Tibetan spiritual practice and are used in such rituals as "feeding hungry ghosts". My favorite bit of advice about the bells came, i believe, originally from Thich Nhat Hahn: "You don't strike the bells, you invite them." All the best,

Re: temple bells - how to use?

2010-07-07 Thread Lisa Heft
I bow to you, Ms. Karolina. I only know what I have noticed. 1) If you ring them 'to let people know things) - for example to signify the change in time for sessions - you are actually breaking into peoples' thought process. And there are always enough timepieces (electronic and otherwise)

Re: Any suggestions for Open Spacers in South Africa?

2010-07-07 Thread Lisa Heft
Andrew - Harrison has mentioned Valerie Morris before: http://www.rbanet.co.za/A_whoweare.html I have done Open Space and other facilitation work in South Africa (and in Mozambique and Zambia) - however I reside in the USA so your client would have that extra cost of my travel. But I look f