Re: Youth Leaders

2010-10-10 Thread Suzanne Daigle
Dear Ashley, Tree and others, Still loving this discussion so much. From the initial post and where it evolved, I ponder thinking how wonderful it is when we apply passion to what we want to say, speaking our thoughts and views strongly as they are without holding back. I feel the emotion, the i

Re: Youth Leaders

2010-10-10 Thread ashley cooper
Hello all, I'm thrilled that this thread is providing opportunities to think, feel and express perspectives on the various roles we play, the impositions we make, and some of the structuring within our societies (amongst many other things obviously). Thank you for all of the caring that has been v

Re: Youth Leaders

2010-10-10 Thread Denise Tennen
Hi Tree Just want you to know that I heard you and that I am moved by what you said. When my son was young, my self-appointed job was to be a guardian of his enthusiasm. This is different than what you are talking about, yet it also seems related. Denise On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:11 AM,

Re: Youth Leaders

2010-10-10 Thread Denise Tennen
Thanks you Pat, for this clear articulation. It feels just right to me and links directly to my belief that my major role as a parent is to be the guardian of my child's enthusiasm. I'm realizing that I also consider this one of my main roles as an art teacher. Denise On Oct 9, 2010, at

Fwd: [ITP] Perception

2010-10-10 Thread Denise Tennen
This seems somehow relevant to the discussion about youth leaders. Notice how many times it says the children noticed the violinist and wanted to linger... Denise ITP (integral transformative practise as described by philosopher Ken Wilbur) works to understand useful patterns and find

Re: Youth Leaders

2010-10-10 Thread Denise Tennen
Seems right on to me... Denise On Oct 9, 2010, at 2:28 PM, st...@clara.co.uk wrote: I'm loving the passion of this discussion and the thinking it brings up, and am moved to suggest that perhaps the most resonant question is around elders and eldership, and that the concern for youth - havi

Re: Fwd: [ITP] Perception

2010-10-10 Thread Scott Gassman
Thank you for an awesome share. Scott On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Denise Tennen wrote: > This seems somehow relevant to the discussion about youth leaders. > > Notice how many times it says the children noticed the violinist and wanted > to linger... > > Denise > > > > > ITP (integral trans

Re: Youth Leaders

2010-10-10 Thread Pat Black
I feel that way too, especially when I am teaching art. It is my job to listen deeply and make available material resources and the years of experience I have working with tools so they can materialize their dreams. I love handing out tools and saying lets see what they can do. My 1 year old gra

Re: Fwd: [ITP] Perception

2010-10-10 Thread Pat Black
Thanks for this Denise. All I can say is yes and Amen Pat * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listse

Re: Youth Leaders

2010-10-10 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear Tree, ok, I smiled reading your first sentence: I have had a hunch for a long time that nobody can actually understand what someone else tries to say. And, even more interesting, or disturbing, if you like, I myself have only limited understanding of what I myself say. But there seems to b

Re: [ITP] Perception

2010-10-10 Thread Denise Tennen
You're welcome. And FYI, this whole thing was sent to me by my friend Bill. so I'm just the passer on... Denise On Oct 10, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Scott Gassman wrote: Thank you for an awesome share. Scott On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Denise Tennen wrote: This seems somehow relevant to

Re: Invitation to NCDD Events on Public Engagement in Austin, Boston, Cupertino, Denver and Portland

2010-10-10 Thread Tenneson Woolf
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