Re: WOSONOS 2012 (and some important news from WOSonOS 2011 in Chile )

2010-11-15 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi Juan Luis You are making great progress! As we have a little more time – we are taking things a little more slowly! The venue looks great. We are just beginning to explore possible venues. The ‘watch this space’ – for the moment – are announcements here on the OSlist. We will have

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear Lisa, dear Artur... basically, Lisas notes reflect my experience with about 200 os events over the last 14 years. In the early days of my practice I spoke quite a bit about "Open Space" (how it came about, the originator, etc.). For some time now, I might mention "Open Space" once (if you

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Peter Weinmann
Hello Artur, in the last two years I did (with others) two trainings with MDs, exerienced and less experienced on the topic of pacemakers. The first day of the trainings we did an outdoor session - a tree climbing course with different degrees of difficulty. Wow! - what a difference in the cours

Re: Opening Space in Bilbao_CONSP!RING EUTOKIA

2010-11-15 Thread ELEDER AURTENETXE PILDAIN
Dear Michael, very nice message and knowing about you! *Contract*: something funny is happening to me. Instead of trying to "sell OS" or trying hardly to inform people about it,... , I´m just getting more and more interested in it. As a result, opportunities are appearing (I might be facilitating

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Artur Silva
Thank you very much for your comments, Lisita. Some notes from myself inline bellow. From: Lisa Heft To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 4:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [OSLIST] OST following a creative enhacing training Hi, Artur - Re

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Artur Silva
Thanks for your wise comments, Michael. From: Michael M Pannwitz To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 9:55:58 AM Subject: Re: [OSLIST] OST following a creative enhacing training Dear Lisa, dear Artur... basically, Lisas notes reflec

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Artur Silva
Thanks for your comments, Peter Artur From: Peter Weinmann To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 10:27:20 AM Subject: Re: [OSLIST] OST following a creative enhacing training Hello Artur, in the last two years I did (with others) tw

Re: Opening Space in Bilbao_CONSP!RING EUTOKIA

2010-11-15 Thread Artur Silva
Hi Eleder: Knowing well, not only the Basque situation, but also that Spain is a multi-country multi-lingual nation, I agree with your choice of using two languages. I would do the same in Catalunya or in Galicia, by the way. I was also impressed by your passion for OST and how that produces

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Chris Corrigan
For me the answer is always "it depends". I have run OST events with stuff at the beginning and afterwards (and even sometimes in the dreaded middle of things) but it is always dependent on the context. Having said that, so much about the opening of space is about cultivating the energy of the

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Denise Tennen
thanks for this Chris, it resonates with me. Denise On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:22 AM, Chris Corrigan wrote: For me the answer is always "it depends". I have run OST events with stuff at the beginning and afterwards (and even sometimes in the dreaded middle of things) but it is always dependent on

Re: WOSONOS 2012 (and some important news from WOSonOS 2011 in Chile )

2010-11-15 Thread Alan Stewart
Jon and All Something you and your Crew may have indicated but I have not noticed. Do you have dates for WOSONOS 2012? Looking forward Alan On 15 November 2010 17:32, Jon Harvey wrote: > Hi Juan Luis > > > > You are making great progress! As we have a little more time – we are > taking thing

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Artur Silva
Thanks, Chris. I also often use "it depends"... And agree with your opinion about the "two part opening". As well as with the difficulty in "shutting up" :-(( Artur From: Chris Corrigan To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 1:22:37 P

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Peggy Holman
Hi Artur, I'll join with others to say that Lisa captured my sentiments on splitting the opening. Bad idea. The principles and law help create a different culture. To your other question of training beforehand, I'll offer a variation on Chris' "it depends". Now, what I'm about to describe is

Giving context, clarifying the theme was: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas Herrmann
Dear friends This conversation sparked a question I have. How much responsibility do you take to give participants context and clarify the theme in the opening of an Open Space meeting? I hand this to the sponsor and some do a great job some don’t. I think they are the ones actually opening the sp

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Donna Read
Thanks, Chris.  Your comments reminded me that I have trouble shutting up when I am anxious, especially in trainings where I generally am anxious.  I have found that just focusing on my breathing helps me through that--when I remember to shut up long enough to breathe  Best, Donna Readhttp://ww

Re: WOSONOS 2012 (and some important news from WOSonOS 2011 in Chile )

2010-11-15 Thread Matilda Leyser
Hi Alan, We do not have precise dates as yet but we decided that we should avoid being on at the same time as the Olympics and the ParaOlympics! This means WOSonOS 2012 will take place between mid Sept and the end of Oct. Sorry not to be more exact at this stage. As soon as we make a firm decis

Testing posting potential

2010-11-15 Thread Anne A Hiha
Did anyone get the message I posted to the [OSLIST] OST following a creative enhacing training thread? Regards Anne from Sunny Napier, New Zealand. * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu --

SV: Giving context, clarifying the theme was: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas Herrmann
Dear Harrison Thanks for your reply (came directly to me, so I post my answer + your reply here). My experience is that sometimes people come to an event, having “read” the invitation without understanding that it is something completely different than the traditional type of gatherings – especial

Re: Testing posting potential

2010-11-15 Thread Agneta Setterwall
I did! regards, Agneta in cold dark snowy Uppsala, Sweden Anne A Hiha skrev 2010-11-15 21.05: Did anyone get the message I posted to the *[OSLIST] OST following a creative enhacing training *thread? Regards Anne from Sunny Napier, New Zealand. * * =

Re: Giving context, clarifying the theme was: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Chris Corrigan
Again, "it depends." There is context and there is energy. Sometimes I find sponsors, especially nervous ones, are really dull in their presentation of the context, and so I find myself having to evoke the possibility of the work, the amazing potential of the group of people who are gathered,

Youth in Open Space

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas Herrmann
Hi Here’s a brief story from an Open Space gathering the other week. This was an OST about supporting youth who have difficulties getting a job. In the opening a man who is a project manager for a youth project talked to some of “his young people” who were present and I guess he persuaded them to

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Artur Silva
Thanks for sharing the JTM story, Peggy. Actually, in my case, it was not a conventional training (as in Harrison's Bank story) and also not only a normal Outdoor training. It was an event that included other stuff like, for instance, a "Talents Night" where each person or group add to act som

Re: Testing posting potential

2010-11-15 Thread Anne A Hiha
Thank you to Agneta and others who have confirmed my connection to the OSLIST. As much as I may rarely make a contribution to OSLIST it is heartening to know that the contribution did get through to some people at least. Regards Anne Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:19:54 +0100 From: agneta.setterw.

AW: OS and mediation, clarifications and questions!

2010-11-15 Thread Catherine Pfaehler
Dear Arno, dear all 1. Arno speaks about mediation as a way of resolving conflict, not about meditation. 2. He would use OST for the annual conference of mediation practitioners. The conference could be a mix of OST for all present and presentations about their work and experiences by mediation p

Re: Opening Space in Bilbao_CONSP!RING EUTOKIA

2010-11-15 Thread Lisa Heft
Hello, dear Eleder - By now you have facilitated your event - yes? However I still wish to share some thoughts about your questions - at least what I have noticed during my own OS work. Regarding people coming at various times during the day: To me, if there are a few people who come in dur

Re: Giving context, clarifying the theme

2010-11-15 Thread Lisa Heft
This is another great conversation. I find that as Harrison says - the invitation needs to explain why the client is bringing people together - in a way that shares the energy for and about the event. People need to choose an event among others - what will compel them to come - what will be

Re: OST following a creative enhacing training

2010-11-15 Thread Lisa Heft
Peggy, I love how you explained your observations and experiments and adaptations over time *for the particular culture you were working with* and I also love that we can never assume that academics or financial departments or police persons or engineers are always going to need extra / ada

Re: OS and mediation

2010-11-15 Thread Lisa Heft
I may be unclear on what you are saying or asking: mediation is something that helps people articulate differences, hear each others' stories, decide what is or is not common ground, and so on. Many different tools / processes can be used - something similar to counseling, or Restorative J