Re: [OSList] Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Carmella Mazzotta
Wow, I rarely say anything on the listserve but I must react to this. The trust factor is really a big one for me in my work in Washington DC these days. From every angle, top down and bottom up and sideways, there is little trust. The pertebation of more diverse voices makes sense and a wide

Re: [OSList] [SPAM] - Re: Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Annamarie Pluhar
As another who only occasionally pipes up. Carmella - I have noticed (but where?) how HO talks about meditating before an OS. Like for two hours? Do I remember that right? In any case I do think that the trust, integrity, authenticity must come from being really centered and connected to.

Re: [OSList] [SPAM] - Re: Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Harrison Owen
Annamarie – Meditation. It has been my experience that meditation prior to opening space, particularly in a “difficult” situation, is the only absolutely essential prework for the facilitator. All the rest can be helpful, but coming to the circle scattered, confused and anxious is a good way to

Re: [OSList] [SPAM] - Re: Trust

2014-02-02 Thread David Osborne
Harrison, I'd like to deepen my understanding of something you shared in this post..Could you say more about "the mere search for control being the total antithesis of trust." David On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Harrison Owen wrote: > Annamarie - Meditation. It has been my experience

[OSList] Remembering Fr Brain Bainbridge

2014-02-02 Thread Brendan McKeague
Hello folks As this day, Feb 2nd, draws to a close in Western Australia, I am aware that it is four years since Fr Brian Bainbridge moved on into what he occasionally referred to as 'the eternal open space'... I have only just discovered the beautiful tribute that Andrew Rixon and Kate Kneebo

Re: [OSList] Facilitator in Colorado wanted

2014-02-02 Thread Adriana Díaz-Berrio
Bello Anna I don't LIVE the re but I could go If the y could pay the Expenses. I could contact them? Enviado desde mi iPad > El 31/01/2014, a las 12:02, Anna Caroline Türk escribió: > > Dear all, > > my friend Sarah is looking for a facilitator for a network meeting of a > Media-Art Network

Re: [OSList] [SPAM] - Re: Trust

2014-02-02 Thread chunili2000
Chime in with my 2 cents here..   I think the most important trust factor in planning an OST convening (or any convening) is the trust between the invitor and the invitee or the trust in the sponsor who calls the gathering. Since they don't know me and I am not the one who sends out the invitati

Re: [OSList] Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Eric
Wow, powerful discussions again! A little story: Here in Tampa Bay we have found a little group so clear and powerful that it might help others on this subject.  It really started with Sharon Joy.  Not only do her friends trust her, but a great segment of the community trusts her.  As will most

Re: [OSList] [SPAM] - Re: Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Harrison Owen
David – “Could you say more about "the mere search for control being the total antithesis of trust." Sure. Nothing complicated or esoteric. If you walk into a group of people with the notion that you need to, or have to, control what is going on – that would be a pretty clear indication to me that

Re: [OSList] [SPAM] - Re: Trust

2014-02-02 Thread David Osborne
Perfectthanks Harrison. David On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Harrison Owen wrote: > David - "Could you say more about "the mere search for control being the > total antithesis of trust." Sure. Nothing complicated or esoteric. If you > walk into a group of people with the notion that you

Re: [OSList] [SPAM] - Re: Trust

2014-02-02 Thread paul levy
The danger here Is too fall down the trapdoor that lies just outside the Gates of Heaven. That danger is to try to ensure the absence of control by trying to control that absence. Hi Paul On Sunday, 2 February 2014 , Harrison Owen wrote: > David - "Could you say more about "the mere search for

Re: [OSList] Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Suzanne Daigle
Yes indeed if I happened to meet up with Open Space in my life it was because of Sharon Joy Kleitsch and I have continued to journey with her ever since. Her grace, wisdom, vision and love that extends to community and globally which she gives so generously is intermingled with trust. Trust in hum

Re: [OSList] Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel Mezick
Who do you trust? On 2/2/14 1:07 PM, Suzanne Daigle wrote: Yes indeed if I happened to meet up with Open Space in my life it was because of Sharon Joy Kleitsch and I have continued to journey with her ever since. Her grace, wisdom, vision and love that extends to community and globally which

Re: [OSList] [SPAM] - Re: Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Skye Hirst
So what is it we "feel" when we feel trust? How do we know it? I suggest that its a whole constellations of variables unique to each being. To feel/know trust, such constellations converge like a whole set of experiences we've had being ourselves, within various contexts, where we come to tru

[OSList] Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
For me, "trust" is a concept or idea or approach or what-have-you that is not part of my speak. My feeling is that it smells of dependency, evokes in me images of paternalism, hierarchy, moral categories, being chained to concepts of others that have nothing to do with me... all unlike what I h

Re: [OSList] Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel Mezick
Good Evening to All! I trust the Open Space. That process. That curiously un-obvious, plain-as-day, default liminal-thing we all do in the here-and-now, one way or the other, anyway. Call it self-org. Call it OST. Or any another name if you like. Liminality. "The 1 and the 5." Any name is OK.

Re: [OSList] Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring
Wow I Like this conversation about trust! I feel happy to read this because I feel connected with you. Trust is for me a very meaningful issue to me. I wrote my ph thesis on this question How does trust influence learning during team work. At that time I didn't know OS yet I was isolated in front

Re: [OSList] [SPAM] - Re: [SPAM] - Re: Trust

2014-02-02 Thread Annamarie Pluhar
Hi Harrison - just to you. Saw your response on my iPhone walking into church. Glad to create an opportunity for you to write the below to the community. : ) If you ever find yourself in the Brattleboro area, St. Michael's Episcopal is a gem of a church. A rarity of excellent music, great li

[OSList] Oops

2014-02-02 Thread Annamarie
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[OSList] - Re: Trust (long)

2014-02-02 Thread Derek W. Wade
You all rock. If "learning is remembering something you already knew," then I'm delighted with the gift of learning I've received from this conversation. Back when I used to fly airplanes upside-down as a competitive sport, I received a simple, profound lesson that I now realize I can apply to Ope

[OSList] Trust (slow)

2014-02-02 Thread doug
Derek-- Wow! This post is a keeper! Thank you! Perhaps we should rename it to Trust (slow). So I did, but slowly. :- Doug. Germann On 02/02/2014 04:52 PM, Derek W. Wade wrote: You all rock. If "learning is remembering something you already knew," then I'm delighted with the gift of learning

Re: [OSList] - Re: Trust (long)

2014-02-02 Thread David Osborne
Thanks for sharing Derek. It's helpful for me to hear your wisdom at this time as one who has a habit of rushing !!! David On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Derek W. Wade wrote: > You all rock. If "learning is remembering something you already knew," > then I'm delighted with the gift of learnin

Re: [OSList] - Re: Trust (long)

2014-02-02 Thread chunili2000
  This is so beautiful Derek. Thank you for writing it down in such reflection:   "...its critical to treat that circle as a magic circle; to enter it with all awareness, calm, trust, and respect due a place of power."   It'll beccome my lesson too.   Chuni  

Re: [OSList] - Re: Trust (long)

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel Mezick
WOW Serious: The Hammerhead Turn: (21 sec vid description) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpMC7WRj4Vk More: (text description) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stall_Turn#Flying_technique On 2/2/14 8:36 PM, David Osborne wrote: hammerhead turn -- Daniel Mezick, President New Technology Soluti

Re: [OSList] - Re: Trust (long)

2014-02-02 Thread Andrea Chiou
Derek,Thanks for sharing this amazing story. Didn't know you had this extraordinary hobby!AndreaOn Feb 2, 2014, at 8:27 PM, "Derek W. Wade" wrote:You all rock. If "learning is remembering something you already knew," then I'm delighted with the gift of learning I've received from

Re: [OSList] - Re: Trust (long)

2014-02-02 Thread Caitlin Frost
Thanks for this great story. As I read it I can relate to some beautiful hosting moments - and a few 'soul frying' moments also, where I was not moving in a slow and deliberate way. Like everything I find in hosting and living Open Space - it is simple, and sometimes not so simple - especially wh

Re: [OSList] self-organization

2014-02-02 Thread David Osborne
Marie Ann, I'm delayed in responding and I hope you still find my thoughts helpful. You ask whether self-organization might work because of intrinsic factors within us all as humans like the desire to help others, be constructive etc. If this is the case the same force is in all of nature because

Re: [OSList] - Re: Trust (long)

2014-02-02 Thread Dan Mezick
The pilot-imposed oscillation as described in the proceedings ("Authority and Open Space) is an especially sweet piece of learning Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Caitlin Frost wrote: > Thanks for this great story. > > As I read it I can relate to some beautiful hosting moment

Re: [OSList] Trust

2014-02-02 Thread David stevenson
Ho indeed Harrison! OpenSpace opens space for freedom of spirit and heart, choice and the weaving of our fates and destinies with that of our world, it does not achieve complience and so utterly fails as a management tool, at least to the extent that people are to be managed... On Saturday, Februar