Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Harrison Owen via OSList
Barry -- your notion about "scale" -- numbers of people -- is pretty close to the accepted wisdom. Summed up in the old refrain, Some day we got to get organized! Especially when we get bigger. Certainly makes sense, keeps a lot of MBA programs in business, but simply doesn't accord with my

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Michael Herman via OSList
Paul, if I remember right, the severely dehydrated need to be restored with IV's.The water analogy is a good one though, in another sense... We all have something we call a mind, but many people never look at mind. People have been teaching meditation for a long time to do just that. The

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Royle, Karl via OSList
Sounds a bit like “lifelong learning” which has been critiqued for placing individuals as being at fault for not fitting in with the general capitalist project… Just a thought…. Also see therapeutic governance ☺ From: OSList on behalf of Tony Budak via OSList Reply-To: World wide Open Space

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Tony Budak via OSList
How about "Learning Networks that re-engage people into a learning culture that is relevant to their lives, supports their aspirations and recognizes their own inherent talents?" Please CLICK the following to set up a meeting. All my contact info is here:

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Tony Budak via OSList
From Devin Balkind: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Spokes_Council_Model "Occupy Sandy, which took place about a year after Occupy Wall Street, worked a bit differently. We recognized the flaw in a council of affinity groups and instead organized a spokes council around projects. Project

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Barry Owen via OSList
I've been mulling this over for months now. Have come to what I think is a conclusion that blaming the mayhem on "Organisations" is akin to "shooting the messenger" . . . making it a martyr. After all, any time there's more than one person present, it's essentially the birth of an "organisation".

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread R Chaffe via OSList
Paul You say “For me, offering training in OST is like taking a day to train someone in how to drink fresh water.” Right now millions of dollars are being spent doing just that “teaching people to drink fresh water” because in the western world we have lost our way and cannot even feed

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Dear Mark, at the end of your note your say: "...formalize them (standards, ethics, code of conduct) and help us get organized and stay organized until we get the job done." How would you describe the "job" to get done? Cheers mmp Am 19.08.2019 um 17:29 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList: 1st of

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Royle, Karl via OSList
You might look at examples from the past... the anarchists at the start of the Spanish civil war spring to mind Sent by iPhone Karl Royle Head of Enterprise and Commercial Development Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing University of Wolverhampton 01902323006 07815416698 @karlroyle. On

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread paul levy via OSList
Twenty years ago when I needed to earn some money fast I remember considering offering a day's training in OST. I quickly decided against. In fact the decision made itself. For me, offering training in OST is like taking a day to train someone in how to drink fresh water. Regards Paul Levy

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
Sure, no problem at all It's always good to have a few more flowers blooming, then there is more food for the bees. And we need the bees. I also think any activity can help reach out and engaging new people. I would be happy to help set it up. But it will only be one more flower in the grand

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

2019-08-20 Thread Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Dear all, my assumption regarding "organisation" is that they are the work of the devil. They are omnipresent. There is practically nothing that can do without an "organisation". Government, churches, mafia, health care, schools, prisons, military, restaurants, foundations, associations,