Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread

2021-11-16 Thread Peggy Holman via OSList
From what I can glean in Bateson’s article and what I have heard about Warm Data, what happens does sound parallel to what occurs when people meet in Open Space. I find her writing frustrating. But when one is attempting to give language to new ideas, it’s rough. The effort falls into a

Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread

2021-11-16 Thread Chris Corrigan via OSList
Thanks for sharing this Jeff. I have known about Nora's work for sometime and although I don't fully understand it yet I think what I do know of it, it's great.). WHy does she choose the words she chooses? I think because this is how she has come to an understanding about the simple truths that

Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread

2021-11-16 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
Also I note that Nora is still very early in the practice of a methodology that she invented (I think.) Maybe it's like the first five-ten years of OST as folks were figuring out what the hell this is all about... : ) And from the lens of an artist and family therapy researcher whose father was

Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread

2021-11-16 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
Hi Birgitt. My first guess is that it serves practitioners to be simple, while it serves systems scientists to be complicated or complex. They are writing about living systems at all scales and making very subtle distinctions. It may serve us practitioners to have some appreciation for the

Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread

2021-11-16 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
One more email - I was amiss to mention this new theory by Nora, without defining the word she is introducing, and she finds occurring in Warm Data Lab and I think is true in OST too. It is "a way to describe a life giving process, by which vitality, healing, and creativity come into being by the