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I meant to type whether they are far from or close to equilibrium !!!
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And where does Open Space fit in all of this? I think one of the wonderful
things that happens is that the people become aware of the flow which moves
beyond (and around) their exper
I meant to type whether they are far from or close to equilibrium !!!
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> I think Open Space will work wether the share Oscar from equilibrium or close
> to equilibrium as I suspect is born out by the thousands of successful
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I think Open Space will work wether the share Oscar from equilibrium or close
to equilibrium as I suspect is born out by the thousands of successful
examples. It seems to me the critical ingredients in boteh these situations
are; is there enough diversity present and is there enough passion/cari
uch keen to share!
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> best wishes from benign autumnal London town
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Hi, John, look how your input is rippling !
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which is just the title of my book in german language
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in all the experience from my working and living mainly
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perfect, florian! for now anyway.m
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> it seems order while steadily renewi
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Great questions, Michael!
I think when I am feeling optimistic (most of the time) I see OST as
creating one of t
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Anyone care to take
It seems.
it seems order while steadily renewing order
it seems equilibrium while oscillating between different levels
it seems symetric while it becomes asymetric in the same moment
it seems dance while dancing
it seems standing in quietness while full of inner vibration
it is called sleep while
It might depend on the size of the system?
John
On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
> seems important to distinguish between open space as the "cause" of
> disequilibrium and open space technology as one way of inviting people in the
> system to deal with it?
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seems important to distinguish between open space as the "cause" of
disequilibrium and open space technology as one way of inviting people in
the system to deal with it?
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Great questions, Michael!
I think when I am feeling optimistic (most of the time) I see OST as creating
one of those "far from equilibrium states" that Prigogine and Stengers talk
about as enabling new orders to emerge; however, in less sanguine times, I
could also imagine OST as just a "subsys
yes, thanks, john. and... where does os practice drop into either of
these? in bateson terms, it seems open space meetings would be an
alternative state that organizations are unconsciously working to prevent?
how does something like working in an open space way become part of the
equilbrium stat
Michael,
I think Gregory Bateson addressed the question of equilibrium most eloquently a
long time ago in his great book, Steps to an Ecology of Mind! And I've seen
some great analysis of it in Jay Lemke's book, Textual Politics. Let's see if
I can find the relevant quotes...
Bateson: System
contain/exclude/set up perverse
> dynamics with other systems and contexts... are a function of the desires of
> the actors - their readiness to 'improve/progress/be benign/hold on to good
> intentions and espoused values/be moral and ethical etc...' all up for grabs
> - yours, a
est wishes from benign autumnal London town
Anne M Bennett
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Florian,
HOWEVER... (and this may be how OST works... Harrison?) Prigogine and
Stengers also say that... "in open systems, in far from equilibrium states,
new orders emerge spontaneously."
John
On Sep 19, 2011, at 1:20 AM, fisch
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> Florian,
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> HOWEVER... (and this may be how OST works... Ha
t;and then we implement and control.
>>>
>>>But if we think about Chris Alexander's "Patterns" to create a "Timeless Way
>>>of
>>>Building", from regions, to cities, to neighborhoods, to buildings (see for
>>>instance http:
;, from regions, to cities, to neighborhoods, to buildings
>>> (see for instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Alexander) we
>>> may create an analogue for organizations and try to imagine what are the
>>> patterns that allow for an organization or community t
This is, I believe, what many of us are doing in many different
domains and situations.
Regards
Artur
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; create an analogue for organizations and try to imagine what are the patterns
> that allow for an organization or community to become more "open" and then
> more able to learn.
>
> This is, I believe, what many of us are doing in many different domains and
> situation
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I continue to have a disagreement with you on this point, Harrison.
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Barry--
Great twist.
I worry about the immediacy effect: with OST, you get what is on
people's minds and hearts that instant. If they name the topic 5 weeks
ahead, or even 2, that is lost. How do you deal with that, Barry?
:- Doug.
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 21:12 -0500, B
Hi Doug,
I've been doing something similar, but with different students.
I began with a 3 hour session to do a full OST meeting opening, posting
topics and opening the marketplace . . . Followed by two 45 minute sessions
. . . and ending with "Evening News"
The Time/place matrix was the same as
Hi, Doug -
Why don't you just do 'Birds of a Feather'?
Circles of chairs (or round tables) all around the room, with the
ability to make a topic sign for each area.
The more chair circles / larger the room, the more possible topics.
To begin, people interested in hosting a conversation for fee
Ah, Lisa, I knew you would be someone with lots of amazing ways to make
this happen!
Birds of a Feather--I am not seeing what you are doing with the signs.
Is it this? There is a blank sign at each table and a marker. First
(empassioned) person there writes her topic, and those who come to that
ta
Friends--
An opportunity has been dropped in my lap, and I need your help to
noodle it through, please:
A local college created a program for beginning entrepreneurs. They now
have a dozen graduates of this continuing education program, and they
are doing follow-on sessions: once a month, from 9
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