How wonder-full! These exchanges are just gorgeous, for what they reveal about the stories we each carry that are a lens through which we receive and open to what wants to emerge!!
Thank you all! I'm so grateful to be part of opening inner/outer space and emerging the Re-menbering of the whole enchilada we are constantly engaged in!! Disclosure: I'm part of the "story-telling craft workers guild", so I appreciate all forms of story telling mastery! (Yes, I was a TV producer for many many years in my pre-OST professional life. The shooters were awesome. Their shots had truth, blinding glorious truth!). We need that heartful heart-filled feedback in all forms. Love and blessings to all. Anne Your Self Occupy 100% Sent from my cottage Phone: 206-459-0227 www.CompassionateAction.org www.ThrivingCommunities.org www.InClaritas.com www.fluentsource.org http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:06 PM, oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: > Send OSList mailing list submissions to > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: An offering! (Michael M Pannwitz) > 2. Re: An offering! (ANNE BENNETT) > 3. Re: offering (Raffi Aftandelian) > 4. Re: An offering! (????? ?????? ?.) > 5. Re: An offering! (Eleder_BuM) > 6. Re: An offering! (JL Walker) > 7. Re: An offering! (Lenser Farah) > 8. Re: An offering! (marianella sclavi) > 9. Re: An offering! (Nasty Banks!) (Harrison Owen) > 10. Re: An offering! (Nasty Banks!) (Brett Barndt) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:59:52 +0100 > From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannw...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > Message-ID: <510710f8.1070...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear Anne, > I watched it and reacted quite differently. > > I saw the perfect choreography and the precise filmwork with several > cameras and the big invisible crew and the large number of professional > musicians and singers from several choirs and the organizational work > backstage such as getting the municipality to grant permission for using > the public space for this event... all the time evoking the impression > of an impromptu happening with lots of casually dressed music > professionals just incidentally meeting and playing and singing > passionately... and thanking the rapt crowd with stage bows, including > the conductor. > A grand commercial/polished ad costing sums only a bank can afford... > against the backdrop of unfathomable sums spanish banks including Banco > Sabadell burned harming millions of Spaniards and resulting in a 26% > unemployment rate (ove 50% among youths)... > > I guess, Charlie Brown, fan of Ludwig van would bristle seeing his idol > abused by a Spanish Bank. > > I closed all space for appreciating the music. > > What I really enjoyed, look here >> http://vimeo.com/24157696 > > It took 4 os workers, two handheld whatever gizmo to record it, a bit of > cardboard, some magic markers... and spirit! > > hugs > mmp > > > On 26.01.2013 22:22, Anne Stadler wrote: >> >> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US >> humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every >> time I view it! >> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"! >> >> Love Anne >> >> Your Self >> Occupy >> 100% >> >> Sent from my cottage >> Phone: 206-459-0227 >> www.CompassionateAction.org <http://www.CompassionateAction.org> >> www.ThrivingCommunities.org <http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org> >> www.InClaritas.com <http://www.InClaritas.com> >> www.fluentsource.org <http://www.fluentsource.org> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 - 30-772 8000 > > > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 401 resident Open > Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143 countries > worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:54:10 +0000 (GMT) > From: ANNE BENNETT <anne.bennett...@btinternet.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>, "mmpannw...@gmail.com" > <mmpannw...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > Message-ID: > <1359420850.36510.androidmob...@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Here we go...I hope! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PpIM0bcNFA > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > Dear Michael > Thank you! So relieved to find a kindred soul. I too felt pain on LudvigVB's > behalf, and some other things as well as the themes you express. For me today > you have opened much heartspace. If I could I would post a link to any > performance by El Sistema, both Venezuelan and Scottish. With deep gratitude > Anne > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannw...@gmail.com>; > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>; > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 11:59:52 PM > > Dear Anne, > I watched it and reacted quite differently. > > I saw the perfect choreography and the precise filmwork with several cameras > and the big invisible crew and the large number of professional musicians and > singers from several choirs and the organizational work backstage such as > getting the municipality to grant permission for using the public space for > this event... all the time evoking the impression of an impromptu happening > with lots of casually dressed music professionals just incidentally meeting > and playing and singing passionately... and thanking the rapt crowd with > stage bows, including the conductor. > A grand commercial/polished ad costing sums only a bank can afford... > against the backdrop of unfathomable sums spanish banks including Banco > Sabadell burned harming millions of Spaniards and resulting in a 26% > unemployment rate (ove 50% among youths)... > > I guess, Charlie Brown, fan of Ludwig van would bristle seeing his idol > abused by a Spanish Bank. > > I closed all space for appreciating the music. > > What I really enjoyed, look here >> http://vimeo.com/24157696 > > It took 4 os workers, two handheld whatever gizmo to record it, a bit of > cardboard, some magic markers... and spirit! > > hugs > mmp > > On 26.01.2013 22:22, Anne Stadler wrote: >> >> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email.? This is US >> humans opening space!? So magnificent.? It brings tears of joy every >> time I view it! >> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"! >> >> Love Anne >> >> Your Self >> Occupy >> 100% >> >> Sent from my cottage >> Phone: 206-459-0227 >> www.CompassionateAction.org <http://www.CompassionateAction.org> >> www.ThrivingCommunities.org <http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org> >> www.InClaritas.com <http://www.InClaritas.com> >> www.fluentsource.org <http://www.fluentsource.org> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -- Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 - 30-772 8000 > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 401 resident Open Space > Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143 countries worldwide: > www.openspaceworldmap.org > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/ea2e6c20/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:46:19 -0800 (PST) > From: Raffi Aftandelian <raffi_1...@yahoo.com> > To: OSlist <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] offering > Message-ID: > <1359427579.92741.yahoomail...@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > miguel-jan, anne salam! > > thanks for sharing your offerings. both touched me! > > greetings from sankt-diegovsk, > raffi > ? > powered by ubuntu 10.4 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130128/26249aac/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:28:29 +0700 > From: ????? ?????? ?. <tya...@sapa.nsk.su> > To: "'mmpannw...@gmail.com'" <mmpannw...@gmail.com>, 'World wide Open > Space Technology email list' <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Cc: "'genuine-cont...@googlegroups.com'" > <genuine-cont...@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > Message-ID: <0A78ADDF33E19140BF29B2C0ADD284A9183F90B1@BOXER> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" > > Dear Michael! > > Thank you for sharing this video. I've been in tears watching this video, > because I like the idea, I like the place, I've been there in 2006 at this > square in Cologne, and because there are two my friends Marai and Christian > who brought this joy and warmth of genuine contact to so many people! Great! > > Love and blessings, > > Marina > Novosibirsk > Russia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael M Pannwitz [mailto:mmpannw...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:00 AM > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > > Dear Anne, > I watched it and reacted quite differently. > > I saw the perfect choreography and the precise filmwork with several > cameras and the big invisible crew and the large number of professional > musicians and singers from several choirs and the organizational work > backstage such as getting the municipality to grant permission for using > the public space for this event... all the time evoking the impression > of an impromptu happening with lots of casually dressed music > professionals just incidentally meeting and playing and singing > passionately... and thanking the rapt crowd with stage bows, including > the conductor. > A grand commercial/polished ad costing sums only a bank can afford... > against the backdrop of unfathomable sums spanish banks including Banco > Sabadell burned harming millions of Spaniards and resulting in a 26% > unemployment rate (ove 50% among youths)... > > I guess, Charlie Brown, fan of Ludwig van would bristle seeing his idol > abused by a Spanish Bank. > > I closed all space for appreciating the music. > > What I really enjoyed, look here >> http://vimeo.com/24157696 > > It took 4 os workers, two handheld whatever gizmo to record it, a bit of > cardboard, some magic markers... and spirit! > > hugs > mmp > > > On 26.01.2013 22:22, Anne Stadler wrote: >> >> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US >> humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every >> time I view it! >> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"! >> >> Love Anne >> >> Your Self >> Occupy >> 100% >> >> Sent from my cottage >> Phone: 206-459-0227 >> www.CompassionateAction.org <http://www.CompassionateAction.org> >> www.ThrivingCommunities.org <http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org> >> www.InClaritas.com <http://www.InClaritas.com> >> www.fluentsource.org <http://www.fluentsource.org> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 - 30-772 8000 > > > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 401 resident Open > Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143 countries > worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:36:22 +0100 > From: Eleder_BuM <eleder.aurtene...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > Message-ID: > <cak1+_w_rp8tg05k5o1znvfq5ypchmus8v6ewxrgekyozbbk...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing! > > I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know > I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,... but I have my own limits and > days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also. > > Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the > whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this > commercial. > > (Maybe I?m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the > headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to > people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they > are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another > campaing?) > > Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,.. > but I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial. > > And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in > Sabadell seems* quite different from self organized and emergent, > spontaneus,...* > > Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video > related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years > ago. It?s not Beethoven, It?s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real > fun ;-)! > > And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some* conflict, > confussion, chaos* at the end,... One can sense there was not much money > for the artists, but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)! > * * > > *http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html* > > May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in > regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main > issues and opportunities! > > This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and > the whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let?s > dream :-)! > > Love, > > *@Eleder_BuM <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM> * > www.burumapak.blogspot.com > www.flowandshow.blogspot.com > www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz > > > > 2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> > >> Eleder ? you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don?t you know that even >> Banks can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a >> commercial as gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new >> standard that needs to be repeated (IMHO ? which thanks to Artur I now know >> what that means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess >> even Banks can do it. J **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ho**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Harrison Owen**** >> >> 7808 River Falls Dr.**** >> >> Potomac, MD 20854**** >> >> USA**** >> >> ** ** >> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** >> >> Camden, Maine 04843**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Phone 301-365-2093**** >> >> (summer) 207-763-3261**** >> >> ** ** >> >> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** >> >> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of >> OSLIST Go to: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: >> oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Eleder_BuM >> *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 6:10 AM >> >> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] An offering!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Hi Anne and all friends around, >> >> >> This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble Open >> Space,... >> >> I?ll add, anyway, that..**** >> >> >> - it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting >> emotions inside me :-o) and**** >> - the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent. * >> *** >> - ...**** >> >> long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some rainy >> weeks, >> >> *@Eleder_BuM <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM> * >> www.burumapak.blogspot.com >> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com**** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/b8742395/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:26:34 -0300 > From: "JL Walker" <jlwal...@terra.cl> > To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > Message-ID: <024e01cdfe2c$a7207230$f5615690$@cl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks a lot for your post Anne Stadler, I have also put it on my Facebook. > Too inspirational. > > > > Could we also talk about a "flash mob" Open Space? > > Or only "occupy" is the right name for it? > > > > What if for the next 20th of March that has been declared by UN as the world > day of happiness, many of us facilitate a flash mob Open Space in our cities? > > What if the theme be challenges and opportunities of happiness today? > > > > Could be the World Bank the sponsor? > > > > What do you think? > > > >> From Chile with love, > > > > Juan Luis > > > > > > De: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] En nombre de Anne Stadler > Enviado el: s?bado, 26 de enero de 2013 18:22 > Para: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > Asunto: [OSList] An offering! > > > > > Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US humans > opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every time I view it! > > Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"! > > > > Love Anne > > > > Your Self > > Occupy > > 100% > > > > Sent from my cottage > > Phone: 206-459-0227 > > > > www.CompassionateAction.org > > www.ThrivingCommunities.org > > www.InClaritas.com > > www.fluentsource.org > > http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg > <http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be> > &feature=youtu.be > > _____ > > Se certific? que el correo no contiene virus. > Comprobada por AVG - www.avg.es > Versi?n: 2013.0.2890 / Base de datos de virus: 2639/6056 - Fecha de la > versi?n: 25/01/2013 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/b37e8730/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:04:21 +0100 (CET) > From: Lenser Farah <fa...@open-forum.de> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > Message-ID: > > <597171442.2481265.1359471861771.javamail.open-xcha...@communicator.strato.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > same here, thank you!! > farah > > > fischer florian <i...@ff-wey.com> hat am 26. Januar 2013 um 23:32 geschrieben: > >> yes, dear Anne, tears of yoy. >> Florian >> >> Am 26.01.2013 um 22:22 schrieb Anne Stadler: >> >> >>> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US >>> humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every time I >>> view it! >>> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"! >>> >>> Love Anne >>> >>> Your Self >>> Occupy >>> 100% >>> >>> Sent from my cottage >>> Phone: 206-459-0227 >>> >>> www.CompassionateAction.org <http://www.CompassionateAction.org> >>> www.ThrivingCommunities.org <http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org> >>> www.InClaritas.com <http://www.InClaritas.com> >>> www.fluentsource.org <http://www.fluentsource.org> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be >>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>> > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/8f1dd9e7/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:26:53 +0100 > From: marianella sclavi <sclavi.mariane...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > Message-ID: > <CAJZEHNWLPNPnFizs564oxrjYb439fbrmSZft5rC-iO=be-s...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi everybody > > I agree that a commercial for a bank by itself does not awake very > positive emotions nowadays, but: > > 1.it is a wonderful one, extremely well crafted and enjoyable > 2. we can learn a lot from good communications > For ex: 1. I would love to have a youtube about a good Ost done in the > same manner > and I think it is possible, although the Ost is more "spontaneous" and > the bank's concert is a sort of a living theater, with actors > pretending to be passersby and passersby being actors. > for ex: 2. by looking at this video everybody can understand very > effectively the value of flash-mob music in public places. And that > public places should be planned to host such happenings, spontaneous > or organized. > > and ( Michael) I find the bank's video much more effective and > enjoyable than the one about free hugs in a public place which can be > seen ( and done ) once a year, but not twice. > > An appreciation of a rich, extremely well crafted communication > payed for by a bank, doesn't mean that we have to appreciate the main > politics of the bank. > > In a few words: I am going to imitate ..the bank !! ( Also because I > think that it is a kind of good idea that with the right people can be > done for free exactly like the free hug happening.. ) > > And I find very interesting this whole discussion !! > > So double thanks to Anne. > > Marianella > > > > > > 2013/1/29 JL Walker <jlwal...@terra.cl>: >> Thanks a lot for your post Anne Stadler, I have also put it on my Facebook. >> Too inspirational. >> >> >> >> Could we also talk about a "flash mob" Open Space? >> >> Or only "occupy" is the right name for it? >> >> >> >> What if for the next 20th of March that has been declared by UN as the world >> day of happiness, many of us facilitate a flash mob Open Space in our >> cities? >> >> What if the theme be challenges and opportunities of happiness today? >> >> >> >> Could be the World Bank the sponsor? >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> From Chile with love, >> >> >> >> Juan Luis >> >> >> >> >> >> De: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org >> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] En nombre de Anne Stadler >> Enviado el: s?bado, 26 de enero de 2013 18:22 >> Para: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> Asunto: [OSList] An offering! >> >> >> >> >> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US humans >> opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every time I view >> it! >> >> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"! >> >> >> >> Love Anne >> >> >> >> Your Self >> >> Occupy >> >> 100% >> >> >> >> Sent from my cottage >> >> Phone: 206-459-0227 >> >> >> >> www.CompassionateAction.org >> >> www.ThrivingCommunities.org >> >> www.InClaritas.com >> >> www.fluentsource.org >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Se certific? que el correo no contiene virus. >> Comprobada por AVG - www.avg.es >> Versi?n: 2013.0.2890 / Base de datos de virus: 2639/6056 - Fecha de la >> versi?n: 25/01/2013 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > -- > ***** > http://sites.google.com/site/marianellasclavi/Home > > https://sites.google.com/site/marianellasclavi/ > > ***** > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:39:51 -0500 > From: "Harrison Owen" <hho...@verizon.net> > To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!) > Message-ID: <001501cdfe36$e16a94c0$a43fbe40$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Eleder ? As you may have noticed, we had a few problems with Banks here in > the USA. Some of it was due to outright incompetence, some to criminal greed > and some more to simple mistakes (both honest and stupid). All told it > looked like another day in Human Land with the good, the bad, and the ugly > and a net result that Banks in general became #1 on the List of folks you > love to hate. Been there. > > > > But all that said, Banks are an essential part of our economic life and we > certainly need to take them to task when they do some of the darker things > that they did. At the same time I believe we need to encourage them when > they take some positive, albeit faltering steps, for example the video. Most > of all, Banks (like all other human institutions) desperately need some > broader open space. Having had several (banks) as clients I can say that > these poor folks ( and I really mean that) spend their lives in suffocating > conditions filled with rules, regulations, pecking orders, petty power plays > ? to the point that they are isolated from each other and most especially > from the world beyond. One effect of this is that when some part of their > system goes seriously off the track and displays truly sick behavior, that > pathology is amplified by the closeness, not unlike a bad abscess. Carrying > the analogy ? the first step towards a cure is to let in some fresh air and > light (open the space). Given the space/time the conscience of their > colleagues has a chance to clean things up, and when the space is opened > even wider, the whole community can render the same function. > > > > I don?t think this is rosy-eyed idealism? Fact is, Banks are just another > part of humanity, and sh? does happen. And when it does, some fresh air > helps. So it seems to me that anytime we have the opportunity to open some > space, we should seize that moment. Maybe the opening is just a little bit? > but you have to start somewhere. > > > > Harrison > > > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > USA > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > Camden, Maine 04843 > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > > > www.openspaceworld.com > > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST > Go to: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:36 AM > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > > > > Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing! > > I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know > I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,... but I have my own limits and > days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also. > > Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the > whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this > commercial. > > (Maybe I?m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the > headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to > people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they > are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another > campaing?) > > > Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,.. but > I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial. > > And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in > Sabadell seems quite different from self organized and emergent, > spontaneus,... > > Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video > related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years > ago. It?s not Beethoven, It?s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real fun > ;-)! > > And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some conflict, > confussion, chaos at the end,... One can sense there was not much money for > the artists, but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)! > > http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html > > May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in > regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main > issues and opportunities! > > This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and the > whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let?s dream > :-)! > > Love, > > <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM> @Eleder_BuM > <http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com/> www.burumapak.blogspot.com > <http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com/> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com > <http://www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz> www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz > > > > > > 2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> > > Eleder ? you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don?t you know that even Banks > can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a commercial as > gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new standard that > needs to be repeated (IMHO ? which thanks to Artur I now know what that > means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess even Banks > can do it. J > > > > ho > > > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > USA > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > Camden, Maine 04843 > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website) > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST > Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:10 AM > > > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! > > > > Hi Anne and all friends around, > > > > This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble Open > Space,... > > I?ll add, anyway, that.. > > * it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting > emotions inside me :-o) and > * the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent. > * ... > > long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some rainy > weeks, > > <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM> @Eleder_BuM > <http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com/> www.burumapak.blogspot.com > <http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com/> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/9e620010/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:16:07 -0500 > From: Brett Barndt <barndtbr...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!) > Message-ID: > <cad4gzvegd2gmm1uydjrufor6oilpwfy8euvxtvkr4axtmcj...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Harrison, > > Great to see this topic on OSlist. Very very very important for > caring, concerned, and socially engaged people to educate ourselves > about this important and fundamental topic. In fact, there are > alternatives to this system and Sh* does not need to happen quite like > it does. The Sh* is a product of the system as it is designed. There > are alternatives, and it is high time we resurfaced those alternatives > in consciousness after a century of power institution efforts to erase > them. > > There is some very good history by Farley Grubb of UDelaware on the > origins of bank power over our economy. It turns out a significant > number of the Founding Fathers were bank shareholders in the Bank of > the United States. Farley Grubb makes it pretty clear that the > Founders and the "Money Interests" got what they wanted by limiting > the ability of local communities and states to issue their own money > into circulation. > > They made sure that the private banking industry would have control > over the money supply, to expand it when they want to, and then > contract when they need to for their own profit purposes. > > This system is in stark contrast to the colonial period when > individual colonies issued currency into circulation for services > rendered to the colony. i.e. community. > > Banks may be part of our economic life, but the way they create the > money supply through debts is an arbitrary form emanating from England > with the Bank of England. They used that system all over the empire > precisely because it draws the fruits of productive effort and human > transformative energy ever more toward a center of fewer and fewer > owners. The IMF then pushed it out to more places in the world after > "independence" and the replacement of the British Empire. > > The system was also foisted upon European countries in the days of > "classical" or "liberal" economics. The system itself as designed > explains why wealth and income is so concentrated in these economies, > and why more and more are rendered property-less wage earners > perpetually in debt to the owners of the banks at the heart of the > economic system. > > It turns out that the "open space" of the Constitutional Conventions > in Philadelphia in the 17980s were not so open since bank shareholders > were the preponderance of the attendees at the "open space". And, > evidently there were several similar "coup d'etats" against real > dialogue and all voices being heard over time at strategic moments > from then until now. The Shays and Whiskey Rebellions arose only a few > short years after this money monopoly was established as evidence > enough of its unjust outcomes. > > We need to open that space again and revisit these constitutions and > all the law codes that privilege creditors, banks, and their > beneficial owners over everybody else who really are the ones creating > everything that's created underlying the economy. It is after all a > human economy. > > We all need to learn more vocabulary about the choices available to us > for how money comes into existence. This is what now needs to happen > in Open Space. Conventional wisdom, lack of knowledge, propaganda, and > loss of agency have taken away our knowledge about the origins of > money, and the power dynamics inherent in those origins. > > Like Grubb and other historians studying about money in these early > Constitutional Conventions like to say, "the average red neck farmer > in the Carolinas knew more about money and where it comes from than > the average Ivy League educated law student today." > > And, I witnessed his questioning the audience about origin of money to > an audience of law students at Columbia University just last week! > > We had better wake up from our slumber about these dark details. The > Spanish banks are not the only ones who have a lot to cover up with > feel good warm and fuzzy commercials. They have taken the nation to > the brink of disaster. 26% unemployment, and like in Greece, rising > suicide rates. > > As a Canadian visitor asked a group of young activists in December in > NYC, "do you Americans know what has happened to your country? Do you > know what it is like to come by train from Toronto and cross the > border at Niagara Falls to see boarded up and abandoned houses? And, 8 > hours of train past disused factories and towns all over New York > State? Do you know what happens when the wealth of a generation gets > wiped out?" > > Of course they did not know what happens...maybe that would be wisdom > for European grandparents to contribute! > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: >> Eleder ? As you may have noticed, we had a few problems with Banks here in >> the USA. Some of it was due to outright incompetence, some to criminal greed >> and some more to simple mistakes (both honest and stupid). All told it >> looked like another day in Human Land with the good, the bad, and the ugly >> and a net result that Banks in general became #1 on the List of folks you >> love to hate. Been there. >> >> >> >> But all that said, Banks are an essential part of our economic life and we >> certainly need to take them to task when they do some of the darker things >> that they did. At the same time I believe we need to encourage them when >> they take some positive, albeit faltering steps, for example the video. Most >> of all, Banks (like all other human institutions) desperately need some >> broader open space. Having had several (banks) as clients I can say that >> these poor folks ( and I really mean that) spend their lives in suffocating >> conditions filled with rules, regulations, pecking orders, petty power plays >> ? to the point that they are isolated from each other and most especially >> from the world beyond. One effect of this is that when some part of their >> system goes seriously off the track and displays truly sick behavior, that >> pathology is amplified by the closeness, not unlike a bad abscess. Carrying >> the analogy ? the first step towards a cure is to let in some fresh air and >> light (open the space). Given the space/time the conscience of their >> colleagues has a chance to clean things up, and when the space is opened >> even wider, the whole community can render the same function. >> >> >> >> I don?t think this is rosy-eyed idealism? Fact is, Banks are just another >> part of humanity, and sh? does happen. And when it does, some fresh air >> helps. So it seems to me that anytime we have the opportunity to open some >> space, we should seize that moment. Maybe the opening is just a little bit? >> but you have to start somewhere. >> >> >> >> Harrison >> >> >> >> Harrison Owen >> >> 7808 River Falls Dr. >> >> Potomac, MD 20854 >> >> USA >> >> >> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) >> >> Camden, Maine 04843 >> >> >> >> Phone 301-365-2093 >> >> (summer) 207-763-3261 >> >> >> >> www.openspaceworld.com >> >> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST >> Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> >> >> From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org >> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM >> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:36 AM >> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! >> >> >> >> Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing! >> >> I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know >> I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,... but I have my own limits and >> days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also. >> >> Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the >> whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this >> commercial. >> >> (Maybe I?m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the >> headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to >> people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they >> are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another >> campaing?) >> >> >> Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,.. but >> I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial. >> >> And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in >> Sabadell seems quite different from self organized and emergent, >> spontaneus,... >> >> Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video >> related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years >> ago. It?s not Beethoven, It?s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real fun >> ;-)! >> >> And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some conflict, >> confussion, chaos at the end,... One can sense there was not much money for >> the artists, but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)! >> >> http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html >> >> May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in >> regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main >> issues and opportunities! >> >> This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and the >> whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let?s dream >> :-)! >> >> Love, >> >> @Eleder_BuM >> www.burumapak.blogspot.com >> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com >> www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> >> >> Eleder ? you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don?t you know that even Banks >> can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a commercial as >> gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new standard that >> needs to be repeated (IMHO ? which thanks to Artur I now know what that >> means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess even Banks >> can do it. J >> >> >> >> ho >> >> >> >> Harrison Owen >> >> 7808 River Falls Dr. >> >> Potomac, MD 20854 >> >> USA >> >> >> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) >> >> Camden, Maine 04843 >> >> >> >> Phone 301-365-2093 >> >> (summer) 207-763-3261 >> >> >> >> www.openspaceworld.com >> >> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST >> Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> >> >> From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org >> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:10 AM >> >> >> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! >> >> >> >> Hi Anne and all friends around, >> >> >> >> This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble Open >> Space,... >> >> I?ll add, anyway, that.. >> >> it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting emotions >> inside me :-o) and >> the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent. >> ... >> >> long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some rainy >> weeks, >> >> @Eleder_BuM >> www.burumapak.blogspot.com >> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > End of OSList Digest, Vol 23, Issue 20 > **************************************
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