Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-09-01 Thread Bhavesh Patel via OSList
t else do you know? x 5 >> - And *now* what do you know? x 1 >> - Repeat x 6 (or as needed) >> >> Jan, Sweden >> >> -- >> To: mich...@michaelherman.com; oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:12:

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-30 Thread Michael Herman via OSList
ow? x 1 > - And what else do you know? x 5 > - And *now* what do you know? x 1 > - Repeat x 6 (or as needed) > > Jan, Sweden > > -- > To: mich...@michaelherman.com; oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:12:49 -04

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-27 Thread Jan Höglund via OSList
- Repeat x 6 (or as needed) Jan, Sweden To: mich...@michaelherman.com; oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:12:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering From: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Clean Language! Sounds a little suspect to

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-27 Thread paul levy via OSList
I buy all of that, Michael and add it to what I posted - then we have a more diverse picture. What intrigues me is whether these "three day training events" (which apparently aren't 3 day trainings in OST at all apparently though they are often advertised as so, but are necessary unlearning, grief

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-27 Thread Bhavesh Patel via OSList
I had the luck to join a 2 day workshop with Penny Tompkins and James Lawley on "Clean Language" back in 2011 and they also introduced me to "*Clean Space*": http://www.cleanlanguage.co.uk/CleanSpace.html On 26 August 2016 at 18:37, Michael Herman via OSList < oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wro

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-26 Thread Michael Herman via OSList
i can think of two ways to spin grief and loss, paul. one is in the moment of realizing, when it occurs to someone that they've been in a box. the loss of what didn't happen. the second is when folks 'get it' right away and then have to deal with letting go or maybe choosing between this newly d

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-26 Thread paul levy via OSList
Michael It isn't my experience nor the experience of an increasing number of people i am meeting. An emerging generation, loaded with hope and readiness. They don't unlearn. They remember gently and quickly what they always knew. They can be 80 or 90 years old. And they don't unlearn because the

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-26 Thread Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Dear Paul, for myself, it was like a new lease on life opening up grand perspectives to unlearn my decades old OD-facilitation modes. Right, it should have been connected with grief but it was not. At the time, back in 1996, I did not consciously realize that I was unlearning anything... I wa

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-26 Thread paul levy via OSList
I've finally realised what's been bugging me. It's the idea that unlearning facilitation is often a step of huge grief. It somehow needs three days of facilitation Etc. I beg to differ. The human soul needs only to open space for its own unlearning. Do we not believe we can invite those who

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-26 Thread Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Here are the first few lines of what Judy Rees says about Clean Language: "...if you’re interested in understanding people, how they think and how they change, you’ll want to know about Clean Language. It’s an impressively versatile tool for finding out out what people are really thinking and f

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-26 Thread Michael Herman via OSList
> > Summer Address > > 189 Beaucauire Ave > > Camden, ME 04843 > > 207 763-3261 > > > > Websites > > www.openspaceworld.com > > www.ho-image.com > > > > *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf > Of *Mich

Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-26 Thread Harrison Owen via OSList
, August 26, 2016 11:37 AM To: OSLIST Subject: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering there's something interesting happening that some of us might want to join on september 9th. i don't think it's been mentioned here yet. i first heard about "

[OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

2016-08-26 Thread Michael Herman via OSList
there's something interesting happening that some of us might want to join on september 9th. i don't think it's been mentioned here yet. i first heard about "clean language" from harold shinsato. it seems useful in our conversations with sponsors about invitations, to help us work with their sto