A First Step From Rome

2002-06-12 Thread Harrison Owen
One of the conference organizers wrote briefly about the return from Rome. Seems like something may actually have gotten started. Despite the worries and difficulties of our return trip to Israel (the invasion of Israel into Ramallah, the intense search and security checks of our patient Palestin

A First Step From Rome

2002-06-13 Thread Heidi and Dan Chay
Hi Harrison, You wrote: >> Since my time 10 years ago in South Africa, it has been clear to me that OS has enormous power for what we might call conflict resolution, but it is a resolution that does not eliminate conflict. If anything the conflict is magnified, but space is provided so that the c

A First Step From Rome

2002-06-13 Thread Heidi and Dan Chay
Wow! I received my OS list, digest version, this evening to see that already this thread is so rich. So many items begging thought and response. Due to lack of free energy to respond more, I will be digesting in my spare time for the next few days. Meanwhile, some people may enjoy following this

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-12 Thread florian fischer
Harrison Owen schrieb: > ...and everything to do with the power of self-organization. All > we do in Open Space is to create the conditions under which a > completely natural process can start or re-start. If true, this is > really good news, for it would mean that we already have at our >

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-12 Thread kenoli Oleari
Another example of what we have been experiencing whenever a "system" of people are assembled and given a context in which to talk to each other about things that they know are important to them: that they discover that they already have the "wisdom" to find their own way. The "wisdom" is in the r

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-12 Thread Toni Petrinovich
sestate.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:57 AM Subject: A First Step From Rome One of the conference organizers wrote briefly about the return from Rome. Seems like something may actually have gotten started. Despite the worries and difficulties of our return trip to Israel (the in

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-12 Thread Julie Smith
Dear Harrison, You said >> The experience in Rome provides an opportunity for deep learning about this thing we call Open Space, and possibly an even deeper learning about possible pathways to peace. Since my time 10 years ago in South Africa, it has been clear to me that OS has enormous power

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-13 Thread Harrison Owen
At 12:39 AM 6/13/2002 -0800, Dan wrote: It occurs to me "conflict" is a loaded word, having different connotations in different cultures. For example, we have Bahai friends who see no benefits in the category "conflict." They talk about "conflict free conflict resolution," with heavy emphasis on

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-13 Thread Meg Salter
aSpace Consulting 416/486-6660 meg.sal...@sympatico.ca www.megaspaceconsulting.com - Original Message - From: Julie Smith To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: Re: A First Step From Rome Dear Harrison, You said &

Re: a first step from Rome

2002-06-13 Thread Winston Kinch
H... Gee. So it seems that the "nothing" we purportedly do when holding space is quite pregnant after all... Winston * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options

Re: a first step from Rome

2002-06-13 Thread Glory Ressler
Hey Winston, I don't get you on this and I want to... Would you say more? Best, glory ressler (or, as I'm known on the gestalt listserv, 'gory wrestler' :-) ) Winston Kinch wrote: H... Gee. So it seems that the "nothing" we purportedly do when holding space is quite pregnant after all.

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-13 Thread Julie Smith
: Re: A First Step From Rome Harrison, Julie and OS friends Conflict resolution and peace making (with references to Ken Wilber); Wasn't it Einstein who said that a true problem can never be solved from the same state in which it was created? I think conflict resolution is about "t

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-14 Thread Judi Richardson
Hello to all that are following this line I have been away from the computer for the last few days, and was delighted to find your postings upon my return tonight. As Harrison, Tova, Avner and Carol are doing extraordinary/ordinary work in their part of the world, on a smaller scale we are ha

Re: a first step from Rome

2002-06-14 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Glory, I wanted to give a short answer. I was not able to do so. So I do not post it to the list, but send it off-list to you. Thanks again for your feedbacks to me. Bernhard Glory and all, It is long, because I usually do not yet understand clearly, what I am writing about, so I e

Re: a first step from Rome

2002-06-14 Thread Glory Ressler
Bernhard, Thank you. You words are very good and much shorter than mine - and I am a native english speaker! Good reminder for me :-) Thanks to Joelle for prompting your message with her feedback! And thanks to Metta Zetty's reflection ( http://awakening.net/Reflections.html ), that sums up part

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-15 Thread Averbuch
esday, June 12, 2002 6:44 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: A First Step From Rome Dear Harrison, You said >> The experience in Rome provides an opportunity for deep learning about this thing we call Open Space, and possibly an even deeper learning about

Re: A First Step From Rome

2002-06-15 Thread Michael Herman
okay, okay, i'm here. <<>> been lurking here while busy in other places but, now prodded, have re-read much of the recent conversation. a lot to take in from my current place of ever-so-slightly-more-than-usual uncertainty and questionning. feels like some important, but not painful, peeling/st

Re: a first step from Rome (long)

2002-06-13 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Harrison, Florian, Kenoli, Julie,Winston and all participants of these emerging threads, wb-traincons...@gmx.net 13.06.2002 at 11:00:03 (GMT/UT + 02:00) On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:57:34 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote: If anything the conflict is magnified, but space is provided so that the conflict, and th

Re: a first step from Rome (long)

2002-06-13 Thread Nancy Peden
Hi Everyone--- Just wanting to say how much I am appreciating the conversation here as I pack to move. I hear conversation regarding OST, process in general, conflict "resolution," "therapy" and especially the voices of experience from Rome. Thank you, thank you for the depth, wisdom and heart I f

Re: a first step from Rome (long)

2002-06-13 Thread Harrison Owen
At 01:40 PM 6/13/2002 +0200, Bernhard wrote: This reminds me of the time, when I was a group dynamic trainer in classical T-Group settings (following Lewins tradition) at Vienna University/Dep. Sociology. At that time I was myself participating in various therapies. The more I learned about the

Re: a first step from Rome (long)

2002-06-13 Thread Toni Petrinovich
Harrison - YES!!! and then again, YES!!! Blessings, Toni - Original Message - From: Harrison Owen To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:36 AM Subject: Re: a first step from Rome (long) At 01:40 PM 6/13/2002 +0200, Bernhard wrote: This

Re: a first step from Rome (long)

2002-06-13 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Bernhard-- Your e-mail discussions are sometimes long, but always filled with things I need to think about. To all participants in this complex discussion--this morning, I am experiencing the OSLIST as a learning organization! My deep thanks to all who have contributed their feelings, thoughts a

Re: a first step from Rome /determination

2002-06-14 Thread florian fischer
WB-TrainConsult schrieb: > > > metaphor of the railway switch for the effect of past > decisions for the future. ..sometimes this metaphor may fortify > fatalistic > interpretations of "beeing determined > by our past" which is only a part of the truth, in most facilitations > of visioni

Re: a first step from Rome (long response)

2002-06-13 Thread Glory Ressler
Dearest all, I have been here with my beloved family and large canine companion... shouting for joy, crying, feeling sad and scared, knowing hope in my body... because of all of you. I want to give you my heart. Here goes... Mostly what I have unlearned are aspects of some theory or methodology