Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-17 Thread Chris Corrigan
I'm going to take a stab at playing with a bunch of the ideas raised over the last few days. I'll respond to Harrison's post below in chunks. My comments are in blue: -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen Sent: Monday, Februa

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-17 Thread Harrison Owen
At 10:26 AM 2/17/2003 -0800, Chris wrote: This idea of grief work as a fundamental tool is interesting too. I see what you are saying Harrison, but something feels to me like that s only part of the answer. When I work with the grief cycle, the thing that people respond to is the map. They ca

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-18 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Chris-- Thesis, indeed. I'm finding much to ponder in your thoughts! Especially thanks for the notes on quantum wave theory in OS! No more writing time today, as I have a five-year-old visitor demanding my attention. But you may hear from me later re: some of these thoughts. Joelle * * =

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-18 Thread Chris Corrigan
Hello my bioregional friend: > Thesis, indeed. I'm finding much to ponder in your thoughts! Especially > thanks for the notes on quantum wave theory in OS! > > No more writing time today, as I have a five-year-old visitor demanding > my > attention. But you may hear from me later re: some

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-18 Thread Chris Corrigan
Island, BC, Canada http://www.chriscorrigan.com ch...@chriscorrigan.com -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:37 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Suc

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-19 Thread Artur Ferreira da Silva
At 10:18 19-02-2003 +, Chris Corrigan wrote: I can t resist throwing out this bone: http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i23/23b00701.htm Thank you, Chris. Very interesting. In the 40's it was Bertalanffy's "General Systems Theory"; later French

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-19 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Chris-- It's never been bad news to hear from you! And great to have some thoughtful people taking on big issues. Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, v

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-23 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Chris-- I promised I would come back for another look at your profound thoughts on this--and all I can say is "Wow!" I like your comments on invitation, collapsing the wave function, mapping and orientation. << And yet, how to account for the fact that Elders sit in Open Space events and after a

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-25 Thread WB-TrainingConsultingDevelopment
Hi everybody again, The problem with quantum theory, dark matter... when applied to other 'facts' ;-) better: contexts e.g. of live, communication or even sprit: We have to look very closely where we use it as metaphor as heuristic instrument to get new and creative points of view on what we disc

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-25 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Bernd-- I always appreciate the deep discernment which you bring to a discussion! Thanks for the reminder that metaphors from one field to another are evocative, not causal. They may lead us in valuable new directions, but cannot be givens. Did I hear you accurately? You wrote: << In that last