Dear Gijs and Gail,
isnt it a good thing we have the law of two feet? Honoring each other
and the group we might be in with our absence if we neither learn nor
contribute? And if the convener leaves and there is enough...well, its
known.
(Local gatherings in a pub, like the os Stammtische, seem to be
different for me...maybe its the food, maybe the splendid greek wine but
certainly my curiosity on who will show up and my recurring experience
that something pretty exciting to outrageous will happen each time).
But before I get carried away with my stammtisch fascination (there is a
new one coming into being in Vienna, contact person is
Christine Sommer
christine.som...@gmx.at)
I want to respond to Gail's interest in the Wave Trek:
Its developing very nicely in Europe (Istanbul, Milano, Amsterdam,
Berlin, Talin, Uppsala) as you can see from the itinerary with lots of
details and contact data to the various events in the cities ho is
touching on this trip in November
http://www.boscop.org/files/Events/Event_563/Wave_Itinerary_as_of_September_28_2008.pdf
You are all invited to come to Berlin where he will be for the week of
Nov 16 through Nov 23 (coming from Amsterdam and continuing to
Talin)...there are several "events" aside from his 3 day Program on High
Performance, among others, of course, an extraordinary Stammtisch.
Home stays with local colleagues (there are about 50 of them listed in
the world map)can be set up via our Chief Housing Officer, Anna Caroline
Türk (she is also one of the participants).
More details here
http://www.boscop.org/event/show/563
In case you want to sign up for the "Program" you first have to register
in the boscop site for the online registration and to be able to see the
list of all who have signed in already. Its a cinch.
More info and details can be gotten from Jo Töpfer who is the chief
organizer of all this for Berlin.
Have a great Sunday,
greetings from Berlin
mmp
Gijs van Wezel wrote:
The monthly Asia call had only a few participants in Aug and Sept. For tomorrow
only Funda was available, but the topics reflect little urgency.
Gail from Taiwan phrased it as follows:
"It doesn't seem to be working for me - how
about others? I wonder if, like OS events, if there isn't something
urgent I really care about at the moment, nothing happens. What
I'm most interested in these days (and for the next few months) is
how it's going with the Wave Trek, what people are planning and what
they are learning as they go along."
For this reason, I will stop the calls.
Gijs van Wezel, MSc
Mega Partners Int'l (China)
Open Space Group Facilitation
www.megainternational.com.hk
www.openspaceworld.org
Shanghai, China
+86-21-64061336
+86-15921806910
skype: gysgys
Quoting funda oral <fundaoral2...@yahoo.com>:
Hi Olga,
You are facilitating very short ost meetings. Here in Turkey, I am also asked
to organize ost meetings for 2-3 hrs. I facilitated 3-4 short time meetings.
As OST is the best and most efficient way to organize a meeting, all of them
were very succesful.
Then i facilitated other meetings organized by OST which took longer time.
I think in one day OST meetings ( 6-7-8 hours), conversations get deeper,
the frienship
increases. In 2-3 days OST meetings the probability that people get organized
and take action to make some changes together increases.
The subject of your meeting, "Evaluating the Effectiveness of Trainings”
is quite interesting. I guess due to the short time available, only the cost
pertspective was discussed during the meeting. Given longer time, many
another perspectives would have been discussed.
Welcome,
Regards,
Funda
--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Îëüãà Çîëîòàðåâà <zoloo...@rambler.ru> wrote:
From: Îëüãà Çîëîòàðåâà <zoloo...@rambler.ru>
Subject: Hello
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 1:02 AM
Hello everyone!
My name is Olga, I currently live and work in Moscow. In 2005 I
came across OST for the first time, while I working in a
telecommunications company. In 2006, I was a participant of an OST
meeting in St. Petersburg led by Raffi Aftandelian. Then I started to
use this approach in my workshops. I want to thank Raffi for helping me
see how OST and OS principles can inform my training approach. Also,
I’d like to thank him for information about OSLIST. It helps me
to acquire additional experience and find answers to my questions.
This year I have been using OST as a part of my workshops.
Usually I offer a three hours OST meeting towards the end of each two
day workshop. These short OST meetings are an opportunity for
participants to talk about those things around which they have a real
passion.
Also in August this year I conducted an OST meeting for a
corporate training club in Voronezh, a provincial city near Moscow. The
theme of meeting was “Evaluating the Effectiveness of
Trainings.” I think this kind of meeting is very important for
corporate Russian training sector. It was interesting to hear different
opinions about the evaluation of business education. Many participants
thought that many evaluation approaches are impossible as they require
lots of resources: time, money, people to do the work. And often the
evaluation ends up being more resource-intensive than the actual
training, be it short or long-term.
The meeting of corporate trainers lasted just three hours; the
sessions lasted for one hour. And the trainers spent the whole time
together.
Thanks for everything.
Greetings from Moscow,
Olga.
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