Jeff, I have used the humongous post-it flip chart pages, and they have not stayed put on a way for even one day, let alone 2.
There is a kind of masking tape that is especially gentle...I think it is blue, and it may be a 3M product, that the company might consider. If not, a rip-stop nylon "sticky wall" might work, but you still have to get it to stay on the wall... Good luck! Megan Davis Washington State DOT Organizational Development Services (360) 705-7412 davi...@wsdot.wa.gov > ---------- > From: Automatic digest > processor[SMTP:lists...@listserv.boisestate.edu] > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 11:01 PM > To: Recipients of OSLIST digests > Subject: OSLIST Digest - 30 Jun 2000 to 1 Jul 2000 (#2000-116) > > There are 9 messages totalling 507 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Job Opportunity > 2. OST Software for Internet (2) > 3. a mentoring idea > 4. UNSUBSCRIBE ME, PLEASE! > 5. <No subject given> > 6. Givens re egroups > 7. Elephantine Post-Its? 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Sign in and Proceed > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 01:19:41 -0700 > From: BJ Peters <bjpet...@amug.org> > Subject: Job Opportunity > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------2BE248AF92756FA89C28FF3A > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> > <html> > Dear Colleagues-- The Institute of Cultural Affairs, an international > organization > specializing in community development, has an opportunity for the right > person to market their Technology of Participation (TOP™) and other > organization > development services to the federal government. The successful candidate > will have extensive experience in the federal contracting system, be > widely > known and highly regarded by decision makers. 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The focus groups would > be > >convened around the needs of the new teachers. Useful relationships > would > >be formed, but not in a one-to-one fashion; the new teachers would leave > >that event with the names and contact info for ALL the mentors, and with > >relationships with several of them based on their OS interactions. > > > > From then on, the new teachers would choose when, how, and from whom > they > > would need help. Mentors could be paid for being available, and, > > hopefully, for attending regular mini-open-spaces with the new teachers > > throughout the school year. > > > >So: Has anyone else done this type of thing as an alternative structure > >of a mentorship? > > > >And, here's my specific question: During the first OS, I am considering > >inviting only the new teachers to convene focus groups. On one level > this > >feels heretical to the spirit of Open Space. But on another level I want > >to deliberately break the set-up of the mentors being the experts. I > want > >the whole program to be oriented around the needs of the new teachers, > not > >around the expertise of the mentors. In my current thinking, requesting > >that the mentors not convene focus groups but instead to simply attend > the > >ones to which they feel they can contribute the most would serve to > >empower the new teachers. WOULD YOU DO THIS? Or is it a bad controlling > idea? > > I think this could be wonderful! And I would suggest two things. a) Try > for > a whole day -- it will really pay off. b) Don't restrict who can post. > This > is not about keeping Open Space "pure" -- although I guess there is some > of > that -- but mostly because I am sure everybody will have value to add, and > the Law of Two feet will take care of the difference. To make all this > work, I think the theme should be a lot broader then just the needs of the > new teachers -- How about something like "Building a school System we > would > all like to be a part of" (and please forgive the dangling preposition ) > > I once did an OS for a corporation (different venue but similar issue) > that > began the orientation program for new employees. We had about 100 > participants roughly divided between old hands and new comers. The theme > was Building X Corp that swerves all the stakeholders. Folks really got > into it AND the mentoring relationships just naturally formed. The one > thing to watch out about is that the new folks might take their > contributions seriously and actually think they had something of value to > add -- Could be a bummer for all those who thought they knew how to design > the program and determine the content ( smile). > > Harrison > > > Harrison Owen > 7808 River Falls Drive > Potomac, MD 20854 > USA > phone 301-469-9269 > fax 301-983-9314 > website > www.mindspring.com/~owenhh > Open Space Institute websites > www.openspaceworld.org > > --=====================_667242==_.ALT > Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" > > <html> > At 05:57 PM 6/29/00 +0000, you wrote:<br> > <br> > <blockquote type=cite cite>Here's what I imagined today: What if > all the mentors and all the new teachers at a particular site (say, 25 of > each) attended a half-day (or more if we can) Open Space to start things > off. The focus groups would be convened around the needs of the new > teachers. Useful relationships would be formed, but not in a > one-to-one fashion; the new teachers would leave that event with the > names and contact info for ALL the mentors, and with relationships with > several of them based on their OS interactions.<br> > <br> > From then on, the new teachers would choose when, how, and from whom > they would need help. Mentors could be paid for <i>being > available,</i> and, hopefully, for attending regular mini-open-spaces > with the new teachers throughout the school year.<br> > <br> > So: Has anyone else done this type of thing as an alternative > structure of a mentorship?<br> > <br> > And, here's my specific question: During the first OS, I am > considering inviting <i>only the new teachers</i> to convene focus > groups. On one level this feels heretical to the spirit of Open > Space. But on another level I want to deliberately break the set-up > of the mentors being the experts. I want the whole program to be > oriented around the needs of the new teachers, not around the expertise > of the mentors. In my current thinking, requesting that the mentors > not convene focus groups but instead to simply attend the ones to which > they feel they can contribute the most would serve to empower the new > teachers. WOULD YOU DO THIS? Or is it a bad controlling > idea?</blockquote><br> > I think this could be wonderful! And I would suggest two things. a) Try > for a whole day -- it will really pay off. b) Don't restrict who can > post. This is not about keeping Open Space "pure" -- although I > guess there is some of that -- but mostly because I am sure everybody > will have value to add, and the Law of Two feet will take care of the > difference. To make all this work, I think the theme should be a lot > broader then just the needs of the new teachers -- How about something > like "Building a school System we would all like to be a part > of" (and please forgive the dangling preposition )<br> > <br> > I once did an OS for a corporation (different venue but similar issue) > that began the orientation program for new employees. We had about 100 > participants roughly divided between old hands and new comers. The theme > was Building X Corp that swerves all the stakeholders. Folks really got > into it AND the mentoring relationships just naturally formed. The one > thing to watch out about is that the new folks might take their > contributions seriously and actually think they had something of value to > add -- Could be a bummer for all those who thought they knew how to > design the program and determine the content ( smile).<br> > <br> > Harrison<br> > <br> > <br> > > <div align="center"> > Harrison Owen<br> > 7808 River Falls Drive<br> > Potomac, MD 20854<br> > USA<br> > phone 301-469-9269<br> > fax 301-983-9314<br> > website <br> > <a href="http://www.mindspring.com/~owenhh"; > eudora="autourl">www.mindspring.com/~owenhh</a><br> > Open Space Institute websites<br> > <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/"; > eudora="autourl">www.openspaceworld.org</a><br> > </html> > > --=====================_667242==_.ALT-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:50:43 GMT > From: Mats Söderlind <majos...@hotmail.com> > Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE ME, PLEASE! > > USUBSCRIBE > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:31:15 -0500 > From: Michael Herman <mher...@globalchicago.net> > Subject: Re: OST Software for Internet > > hello vitaliy, > > i think the state of the art for online openspace is the > metanet system we're just starting to play with in our > community here. http://www.tmn.com/new > > otherwise, the best, easiest, albeit more crude, system i've > found is the ultimate bulletin board system now in use at > http://www.openspaceworld.org we posted the results from > osonos7 there last year and invited non-local participants > to post responses. well, we got but a few, as the whole > thing was finished only just in time for the conference. > don't think it was on many people's screens yet. we did > post our proceedings there easily and simultaneously to > posting them on the wall in our main meeting room, though. > the ubb software is easily installed, well supported, only > about $170 USD, and available online instantly at > http://www.ultimatebb.com > > the egroups.com option that murli has raised lately is > another option, but i prefer the 'conversational' look, > feel, flow of metanet and the ultimate bboard software over > the one-message-at-a-time choppiness of the egroups stuff on > the web. the first two options are much more encouraging of > conversation during and after the event, but it all you need > to do is get the info back and forth between sites, simple > email could be made to work. > > hope some of this helps, michael > > -- > > Michael Herman > ...inviting results in evolving organizations > > Michael Herman Associates > 300 West North Avenue #1105 > Chicago IL 60610 > 312-280-7838 voice/fax > mailto:mher...@globalchicago.net > > The Global Chicago Network > http://www.globalchicago.net > > Michael Herman Associates > http://www.globalchicago.net/mha > > > > Vitaliy Geyman wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Have any of you know of any software packages that has been developed > > for conducting Open Space Technology sessions over internet (ie where > > the participants are in different geographic locations) ? > > > > If so: > > > > - were can I get some more information on it (ie how does it work and > > how user friendly is it, cost etc) ? > > > > - what do you think of it ? > > > > Look forward to hearing from you > > > > Vitaliy Geyman, > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:56:38 +0200 > From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpa...@snafu.de> > Subject: <No subject given> > > --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4924592=_=_=_ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Dear colleagues, > as most of you are aware, Joe Toepfer and I led a 4-day training for > open space facilitation in Moscow early in June organized by > "Intertraining", a Moscow based association for trainers and > consultants working mainly in the not-for-profit sector: civil > rights, ecology, civil society, empowerment of minorities, Agenda 21, > social economy, prison reform, refugee work, etc. Daily reports on > the Moscow adventure were posted on the list and a summary of the > reports can be found at www.openspaceworld.org or at > www.egroups.com/files/oslist/Training+Designs+and+Stories/ or at my > site www.michaelMpannwitz.de. > > Through a generous donation from the Open Space Institute USA, 60 > copies of Harrison Owens "Open Space Technology, A User's Guide" were > taken to the open space training in Moscow at the cost of US$ 10 per > copy, a price that the Russian colleagues could afford. As part of > its regular business, the Open Space Institute US gives this kind of > support to organizations who are contributing to the expansion of the > use of Open Space worldwide. If you would like to support actions > similar to this one in the future make a contribution to OSI-US. If > everyone on the list were to give just two bucks or similar > currencies the donation chest would be filled up again. Send your > check or dollar bills or other currency to the OS-Institute, 15347SE > 49th Place, Bellevue, WA 98006, USA. > > There is feedback that the books are actively used, passed around and > also made available to regional libraries for people involved in the > not-for-profit sector. Someone has started to translate parts of the > book and there is interest in getting it published in Russian. > > Greetings from Berlin where many of us will gather at this years > OSonOS in October. > michael and joe" > > > > > > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1 > 12209 Berlin, Germany > FON +49 - 30-772 8000 FAX +49 - 30-773 92 464 > www.michaelMpannwitz.de > > To subscribe to the oslist, send the following message (and nothing but > the message): > "SUBSCRIBE OSLIST" to lists...@listserv.boisestate.edu > SUBJECT field should be left BLANK > > > --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4924592=_=_=_ > Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <HTML> > > > <FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"><FONT FACE="Arial" DEFAULT="FACE"><FONT > SIZE="2" POINTSIZE="10" DEFAULT="SIZE">Dear colleagues,<BR> > as most of you are aware, Joe Toepfer and I led a 4-day training for open > space facilitation in Moscow early in June organized by "Intertraining", a > Moscow based association for trainers and consultants working mainly in > the not-for-profit sector: civil rights, ecology, civil society, > empowerment of minorities, Agenda 21, social economy, prison reform, > refugee work, etc. Daily reports on the Moscow adventure were posted on > the list and a summary of the reports can be found at <FONT > COLOR=0000ff>www.openspaceworld.org <FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"> or > at <FONT > COLOR=0000ff><U>www.egroups.com/files/oslist/Training+Designs+and+Stories/ > <FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U> or at my site <FONT > COLOR=0000ff>www.michaelMpannwitz.de. <BR> > <FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"><BR> > Through a generous donation from the Open Space Institute USA, 60 copies > of Harrison Owens "Open Space Technology, A User's Guide" were taken to > the open space training in Moscow at the cost of US$ 10 per copy, a price > that the Russian colleagues could afford. As part of its regular business, > the Open Space Institute US gives this kind of support to organizations > who are contributing to the expansion of the use of Open Space worldwide. > If you would like to support actions similar to this one in the future > make a contribution to OSI-US. If everyone on the list were to give just > two bucks or similar currencies the donation chest would be filled up > again. Send your check or dollar bills or other currency to the > OS-Institute, 15347SE 49th Place, Bellevue, WA 98006, USA.<BR> > <BR> > There is feedback that the books are actively used, passed around and also > made available to regional libraries for people involved in the > not-for-profit sector. Someone has started to translate parts of the book > and there is interest in getting it published in Russian.<BR> > <BR> > Greetings from Berlin where many of us will gather at this years OSonOS in > October.<BR> > michael and joe"<BR> > <FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"><B><FONT SIZE="2" POINTSIZE="10" > DEFAULT="SIZE"><BR> > > </HTML> > > <HTML> > <LEFT> > <FONT FACE="Arial" COLOR="#000001" SIZE="2" POINTSIZE="10" DEFAULT="ALL"> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > Michael M Pannwitz<br> > Draisweg 1<br> > 12209 Berlin, Germany<br> > FON +49 - 30-772 8000 FAX > +49 - 30-773 92 464<br> > www.michaelMpannwitz.de<br> > <br> > To subscribe to the oslist, send the fo > llowing message (and nothing but the message > ):<br> > "SUBSCRIBE OSLIST" to lists...@listserv.boisestate.edu  > ;<br> > SUBJECT field should be left BLANK</HTML> > > --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4924592=_=_=_-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:08:49 -0600 > From: Murli Nagasundaram <rismu...@cobfac.boisestate.edu> > Subject: Re: Givens re egroups > > Michelle, you probably have a good point here about the givens, especially > for people who joined much after OSLIST was created, back in late 1996. > We > got the thing off the ground without messing around with details, just to > have something for the OST community to use for engaging in dialogue. The > list was made up as it went along, and perhaps it is a good time for folks > on the list to look back to see what OSLIST has accomplished, what are the > implicit assumptions re: the list and so on. Anyone here willing to > assume > the role(s) of list historian, analyst, interpreter, theorist, etc. We > can > post the results to an OST page someplace, so that those wishing to join > the list are aware of all these assumptions before stepping in. > > I personally see this as a useful exercise both in itself, and in the use > of technology to implement OS. I don't believe such a discussion takes > away from "the main purpose of this list" -- which again, has not been > explicitly framed anyway. > > Murli > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:53:51 -0700 > From: Jeff Aitken <j...@svn.net> > Subject: Elephantine Post-Its? > > Anyone use the new huge post-it notes (for writing short titles and > posting > them on the agenda wall) rather than butcher paper and masking tape? I > guess they get as big as a half-flipchart, or bigger! > > Just went to see a site with a client and they do not allow masking tape > on > any wall. My client suggests this new technology. > > Will they stay on the wall for two days? > > - > New phone: > Jeff Aitken > PO Box 1092 > Inverness CA 94937 > 415.669.1924 > j...@svn.net > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:46:14 -0500 > From: Michael Herman <mher...@globalchicago.net> > Subject: Re: Elephantine Post-Its? > > hi jeff, > not tried the big post-its, but have had good luck with some > blue putty stuff a meeting place supplied once (when they > wouldn't allow masking tape). i just kneaded it up in > little pieces and stuck it all over the big wall. looked > kind of cool and worked just fine. sorry can't tell you the > brand. good luck, michael > > > -- > > Michael Herman > ...inviting results in evolving organizations > > Michael Herman Associates > 300 West North Avenue #1105 > Chicago IL 60610 > 312-280-7838 voice/fax > mailto:mher...@globalchicago.net > > The Global Chicago Network > http://www.globalchicago.net > > Michael Herman Associates > http://www.globalchicago.net/mha > > Worldwide Open Space Website > http://www.openspaceworld.org > > ------------------------------ > > End of OSLIST Digest - 30 Jun 2000 to 1 Jul 2000 (#2000-116) > ************************************************************ > * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html =========================================================== osl...@egroups.com To subscribe, 1. 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