OST, OD, etc.

2002-09-26 Thread Chris Kloth
I have been lurking for a long time, but this thread hooked me today for a variety of reasons...some professional and some personal. I have a very different take on the OST/OD thread. It has to do with a larger issue among people as individuals and communities, where community is not limited to g

Re: OST, OD, etc.

2002-09-27 Thread Winston Kinch
Gee Chris, wow! Positively Wilberian! (I, We, Its; the Big Three and all that) Thanks for the passion! What is our penance to be? One is tempted to wonder: could it be that OST, an invitation to self-organization (which is Eros by another name) in groups, "transcends and includes" those other Its?

Re: OST, OD, etc.

2002-09-27 Thread Harrison Owen
At 10:36 PM 9/26/2002 -0400, Chris Kloth wrote: I have a very different take on the OST/OD thread. It has to do with a larger issue among people as individuals and communities, where community is not limited to geography, but does reflect elements of culture. It has to do with the "I" and the "

Re: OST, OD, etc.

2002-09-27 Thread Meg Salter
...the pebbles continue to drop in the pools of my mind.! Meg Salter MegaSpace Consulting 416/486-6660 meg.sal...@sympatico.ca www.megaspaceconsulting.com - Original Message - From: Harrison Owen To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Friday, September 27,

Re: OST, OD, etc.

2002-09-27 Thread Bernd Weber
Dear all, although I have not much time for list-discussions at the moment, I jumped to the OS vs. OD-thread, intrigued, interested and finally feeling my heart beginning to hurt, mainly because of the we/they projections. I felt: much of what was said about being "bad" with OD were things "OD" p

Re: OST, OD, etc.

2002-09-28 Thread Toke Paludan Møller - InterChange
sestate.edu Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: OST, OD, etc. At 10:36 PM 9/26/2002 -0400, Chris Kloth wrote: I have a very different take on the OST/OD thread. It has to do with a larger issue among people as individuals and communities, where community is not limited to geograp

Re: OST, OD, etc.

2002-09-28 Thread Harrison Owen
At 07:42 PM 9/27/2002 -0400, Meg Salter wrote: In truth, now that Iook back, I was feeling a bit snarly, so I should perhaps recant any unintended slights on other communities/ practices/ approaches etc. I guess what really struck me - and still does - is how people are talking complexity/ self-o

Re: OST, OD, etc.

2002-09-28 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Bernd-- My training for working with organizations came right out of Kurt Lewin's work, and I still use a lot of what I learned there. There are many approaches and interventions that are "standard" OD practice that I never use, because they are just not a good fit with my own beliefs and compet