Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-02 Thread Michael Herman
many here will remember the exchanges between julie smith and harrison that formed much of what chris and i pulled out as the 'user's non-guide'. it was only some time later that i learned that julie had jumped into that pot within a few days of joining the list. anything is possible. Joelle

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-02 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
Dear Joelle, dont you have a poem up your sleeves on the benefits of being foolish? mmp --Original Message Text--- From: Joelle Lyons Everett Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 00:35:38 EST . Now I am bolder, or more foolish! Michael M Pannwitz boscop Draisweg 1 12209 Berlin, Germany FON +49 - 30-772 8

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-02 Thread Harrison Owen
du] On Behalf Of Therese Fitzpatrick Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:23 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain I understood, Harrison, that you were talking about our individual delete buttons. I thought I was in an open space and that

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-02 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 4/1/04 5:24:02 PM, theresef...@hotmail.com writes: > There seems to be some unspoken rank and privilege in this putatively open > space, an assumption that whereas if this were a physical open space in a > conference center, I could butterfly my thoughts hither and thither. .

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-02 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Hi, Ilse, wonderful to hear your voice and your beautiful words! Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu,

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Ilse Debler
wanted to be written, I guess. Take it easy ;-) ~ Ilse, HH - Original Message - From: "chris weaver" To: Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain > Dear OSLIST Community, > > I am enthralled. This thread is

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Seamus Mcinerney
I am not sure that [delete] is the same as the law of two feet. Deleting a message erases it from the record, creating the impression that it never happened but does not mean that the absence of learning or contribution is occuring. A session participant cannot request his or her contributions to b

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Harrison Owen
archives/oslist.html -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Ilse Debler Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:23 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain Dear all I feel very honoured to witness what is going

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Harrison Owen
isit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Seamus Mcinerney Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:35 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain I am not

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
T >To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:47:20 -0500 > >Just for the record -- I was talking about your own, personal DELETE BUTTON. >What you choose to do with that is what you choose to do. On the other hand, &

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Erich Kolenaty
I agree with your thoughtful and heartful contribution. Thank you Chris Erich - Original Message - From: chris weaver To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain Dear OSLIST Community, I

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Ashley Cooper
(attempt #2, the first one didn't go through) dear all participating in this discussion, i have set up a page at www.openspaceworld.net that is titled the OSlistserv Givens, http://www.openspaceworld.org/network/wiki.cgi?OSlistGivens .as that site is a wiki, it seems like a conducive environment

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Ashley Cooper
dear all participating in this discussion, i have set up a page at www.openspaceworld.net that is titled the OSlistserv Givens, http://www.openspaceworld.org/network/wiki.cgi?OSlistGivens .as that site is a wiki, it seems like a conducive environment for a group of this size to collectively creat

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread chris weaver
Dear OSLIST Community, I am enthralled. This thread is connecting deeply with my intellectual and emotional passion. Both the specific list-related issues at hand and the window into deeper learning are important to me. I notice as well how much I care about the people who are posting, and how

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Michael Herman
ng and dismissive of opinions other than your own. Is it intention on your part to be unkind? >From: Michael Herman <mher...@globalchicago.net> >Reply-To: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> >To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-04-01 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Christine, Michael-- I know that in the hours, days and weeks after September 11, it always lifted my spirits to come to the OSList and find a different voice that I was hearing in the news media--a voice that spoke of hope and unity rather than fear and enemies. The connection between us is a

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Michael Herman
have to chime in here, myself, christine... i remember how good it felt on that first day to tune in here and hear the germans right away and then so many others saying 'this has happened to all of us.' our conversations in that first month after must be a great little study that most likely neve

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
-Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]On Behalf Of Michael Herman Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:57 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain have to chime in here, myself, christine... i remember

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
I've always considered this listserv as one giant open space, with the same principles and law as any OST event. My most profound experience came on 9/11 when this was the first place I posted a poem to the world. Knowing that within one hour of the horror, I was connected to many kindred spirits

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
e.edu> >To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:24:07 -0600 > >re: delete... > >it must be technically possible, i suppose, to delete all of one >person's postings. but it would diminish us

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Michael Herman
re: delete... it must be technically possible, i suppose, to delete all of one person's postings. but it would diminish us all. and it would never be able to flush out all the quotings of those messages. as we have had all these years of service for the grand total of $0.00, thanks to murli's goo

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
I think of my online list serv communications on a par with verbal communication. Things I post online are akin, in my thinking, to things I say with my voice in face to face conversations. I do not control my words once they are verbalized and I do not control my thoughts/ideas once they are po

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread chris macrae
I suggest 98% of us carry on as we always have And the other 2% edit more carefully what they say if they have worries Maybe I have got these numbers wrong, but as someone who knows what goes on at least 100 listserves, yours is the most interesting, practical, communal, caring and open; and we n

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Brenda Kaulback
I just read Michael's list of how many postings there have been to Open Space - especially by some of you who are really prolific - and want to say thank you to all who contribute to this list serve. I would love it if I had more time to contribute to this list, or even to read it on a more regula

Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-30 Thread Harrison Owen
Well - if anybody is guilty, it must be me. Way back when the OSLIST began, the good folks at Boise State University offered to host our conversations - FREE! Now it must be understood that Boise State University is a public institution, operating in the public domain, at public expense. And we hav

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-30 Thread Elwin and Joan
--- Harrison Owen wrote: I understand that back in the old days, we did not have Super-Search Engines (GoGooglesnd such) that could pry into every nook and cranny of the InInterNetBut truthfully, if we had such thing, I would have shouted Hallelujah! After all, the point was to open the space, get