Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-30 Thread J. Paul Everett
Discussion on Truth, OSE’s, Godel, Reality Models What is “Truth” depends largely on one’s model of reality, I think. One’s model of reality is generally built on the cultural frame one is raised in as well as one’s personal experiences of what works and what doesn’t work, or work well enough. I

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread Winston Kinch
The creator gathered all of creation (except us) and said, I want to hide something from the humans until they are ready for it. It is the realization that they create their own reality. The eagle said, Give it to me, I will take it to the moon. The creator said, No, one day they will go the

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread william becker
Thank you for the legend..it certainly reflects my "reality" - Original Message - From: Winston Kinch To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality. The creator gathered all o

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread william becker
aying it, but will again, this dialogue is very stimulating and gives me pause in my work and personal life. Thanks to everyone. Bill Becker Strategic Business Resources www.stratbussres.com - Original Message - From: "J. Paul Everett" To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:50 PM Su

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread Julie Smith
#x27;s inherent openness, respect, trust and (borrowing from Carl Rogers) unconditional positive regard. Those are all attributes, I believe, of the awakened state. Julie - Original Message - From: william becker To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: Re: Reflections on Tru

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread Larry Peterson
I think the way we prepare for the reality that like this, is by naming our intentions and our perception of the context. Then we try to find ways to understand our experiences, especially the transforming ones. Words are a partial and way of understanding, always the map, never the territory. B

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread Michael Herman
been good to start reading all of you all again, here on the list, since osonos, after a sort of a mostly-subject-line-only hiatus for me this year. so much moving in life! anyway, saw this bit of your message, bill, and it reminded me that i'd convened a session on 'letting go of ost' in vanco

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread Meg Salter
From: "Julie Smith" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality. > Some people believe we have but two choices for defining reality. One > choice is to be awake, and the other is to be asleep. > > The sleeping state is

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread kenoli Oleari
J. Paul -- I am tempted to spend the next hour thinking about this and responding, it is such a rich posting, and I have to get on to some other things. But, I can't resist a quick response. I sense that we have been using the word "truth" in different ways in these discussions, and I think th

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread Julie Smith
the process. Thank you. Julie - Original Message - From: Meg Salter To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality. > And yet the Buddhist recognition is that, ultimately, the sleeping and > awakened state are "non-dual&q

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread Michael Herman
rocess. Thank you. > > Julie > > - Original Message - > From: Meg Salter > To: > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:22 PM > Subject: Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality. > > > And yet the Buddhist recognition is that, ultimately, the sleeping

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-08-31 Thread Michael Herman
:) > > Meg Salter > > MegaSpace Consulting > 416/486-6660 > meg.sal...@sympatico.ca > www.megaspaceconsulting.com > > - Original Message - > From: "Julie Smith" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: Reflections on Truth, Syste

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2001-08-31 Thread Michael Herman
Julie Smith wrote: > YES! Thanks for weaving it altogether, Michael. > > Julie > > - Original Message - > From: Michael Herman > To: > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality. > > > i agree wit

Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.

2001-09-01 Thread Audrey Coward
This is going to stay with my other treasures. I have been reading all the discussions on truth and appreciating everyone's input. It has kept me stimulated after the OSONOS and I attempt to settle back into my home and work spaces.Thanks to all. Love Audrey Winston Kinch wrote: > The creator g