[OSList] Did you hear about the crybabies who want to take away our Talking Stick?

2022-05-09 Thread Mark Carmel via OSList
They cry, ... but, but, I dont want Elon Musk to take away my ability to take away other peoples free speech... Good luck to all of us who now live in Retaliation Nation... may the farce not be with you...! ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to

[OSList] Time to burn the talking stick...

2022-04-29 Thread Mark Carmel via OSList
A new government disinformation board gets created to advance homeland security. We will all be much safer now. My new plank of OST is now even more important: Leadership Loyalty. The failure to practice it will be at the peril of participants... ___ OS

Re: [OSList] The WOSonOS Talking Stick...safe and sound in Florida!

2012-10-18 Thread Peggy Holman
because of Hurricane Season in Florida (unpredictable). May is a great time > of the year because of the beautiful weather and lower pricing outside of the > traditional tourist season. > > Yesterday, I left the beautiful talking stick with Sharon Joy Kleitsch, a > member of our plan

Re: [OSList] The WOSonOS Talking Stick...safe and sound in Florida!

2012-10-17 Thread Chris Corrigan
Excellent… That talking stick was a personal gift from me to the worldwide OSonOS community, used when Laurel Doersam and I hosted the gathering here in Vancouver in 2001. For eleven years it has circled the globe. The stick is a small version of the west coast talking sticks used in

Re: [OSList] The WOSonOS Talking Stick...safe and sound in Florida!

2012-10-17 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
May is a great time of the year because of the beautiful weather and lower pricing outside of the traditional tourist season. Yesterday, I left the beautiful talking stick with Sharon Joy Kleitsch, a member of our planning team, where she will be giving it a place of honor in her home in St

Re: [OSList] The WOSonOS Talking Stick...safe and sound in Florida!

2012-10-17 Thread Diane Gibeault
anne Daigle >To: OSLIST >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:41:00 PM >Subject: [OSList] The WOSonOS Talking Stick...safe and sound in Florida! > > >WOW...wow...WOW indeed! ...to borrow from Thomas Herman describing WOSonOS >2012. > >A day of travel, body a bit jet-la

[OSList] The WOSonOS Talking Stick...safe and sound in Florida!

2012-10-16 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
Suzanne-jan and all salam! Just want to say congrats and how excited I am that you are your team will be hosting the WOSonOS in Florida next year. Wow! And want to say hats off to you all across the Great Pond who organized the London WOSonOS.  I am very grateful that you posted the reports. A

[OSList] The WOSonOS Talking Stick...safe and sound in Florida!

2012-10-16 Thread Suzanne Daigle
outside of the traditional tourist season. Yesterday, I left the beautiful talking stick with Sharon Joy Kleitsch, a member of our planning team, where she will be giving it a place of honor in her home in St Petersburg. Her front balcony overlooks a beautiful park, palm trees and the sea. It is becaus

[OSList] Riddley, Devoted and Disgruntled and a talking stick for Wosonos2012!

2012-02-29 Thread Phelim McDermott
ge! look out for when we are near you and join us! http://devotedanddisgruntled.com/ http://festival.london2012.com/events/9000961699 Last off just to let you know that very excitingly we managed to meet up with the wonderful Karen Davies in New York and Dear Chile friends you will be happy to k

Talking stick, talking piece, Harvest Moon

2007-01-23 Thread Catherine Pfaehler
as it went around the circle - and both its material and its shape were very symbolic. And I use them just as the talking stick would be used. Chris, what a great invitation and idea. Harvest moon. Beautiful. Time to harvest, to be deeply grateful. Love, Catherine Catherine Pfaehler Senn Open

Re: The Chaordic Dance Continues! The talking stick

2007-01-23 Thread Harrison Owen
The Talking Stick has become sort of an "institution" in Open Space, if only because it seems to fit with what we do and the way we do it. For those of you who may not be familiar with it -- the talking stick is the singular gift of the 1st Nation People of the North America. Doubt

Re: The Chaordic Dance Continues! The talking stick

2007-01-23 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
Thanks to all fellow spaceholders for your replies. Chris, first time I've heard that there may be no wrong way of holding the Talking Stick. I find the Harvest Moon OSonOS idea intriguing and would love to make a Vancouver OSonOS. Catherine, thank you for sharing about use of the egg

Re: The Chaordic Dance Continues! The talking stick

2007-01-23 Thread Chris Corrigan
No wrong way to hold THAT talking stick. In the cultures of the West Coast of Canada here, there is definitely a wrong way to hold a talking stick. Protocol is very important in ceremonies here, in fact diplomatic relations can chill markedly over the way someone acts in the longhouse

The Chaordic Dance Continues! The talking stick

2007-01-23 Thread louise
Hi Raffi, I understand how the talking stick may feel awkward. To me, this is a tool that helps to bring respect and dignity to a conversation through deep listening. And it reminds us of the spirit of OST. As you suggest, I usually leave it in the middle of the circle and provide something

Re: The Chaordic Dance Continues! The talking stick

2007-01-23 Thread Diana Larsen
Hi Raffi, Louise, and all, Instead of bringing my own much-loved talking stick, I've shifted to watching for what might emerge in the group as a meaningful "talking object", maybe like your marker, Louise. That's the best because it's attached to the group mind.

Re: A story from the field: talking stick

2005-05-25 Thread WeBe TrainConsult
Gerard and all I thank you for posting these moving words from the Somalian woman, they are of general truth for Africans who try to settle in Europe I think Best greetings from Mocambique to all after a long time of absence from the list Bernd Weber Am Tue, 24 May 2005 17:47:40 +0200, schrieb G

Re: A story from the field: talking stick

2005-05-25 Thread WeBe TrainConsult
Am Tue, 24 May 2005 17:47:40 +0200, schrieb Gerard Muller: > Dear all, > > Earlier on I wrote I always ask the sponsor to choose and introduce > a talking stick. > > While most do not find this an easy thing to do, most select > something which I could not have thought of,

Re: A story from the field: talking stick

2005-05-25 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Thanks, Gerard, for the beautiful example of what can happen when you ask someone to bring a talking piece for the closing. The gravity of the task can draw out true eliquence. Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ---

Re: A story from the field: talking stick

2005-05-24 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
Thank you, Gerard, for sharing this wonderful story of the Somali key. I do not like talking sticks and I do not use them but this story might shift my resistance. Warmly, Therese Fitzpatrick, MSOD, JD * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu

A story from the field: talking stick

2005-05-24 Thread Gerard Muller
Dear all, Earlier on I wrote I always ask the sponsor to choose and introduce a talking stick. While most do not find this an easy thing to do, most select something which I could not have thought of, and more often than not the words they introduce the talking stick with are something which

Re: A story from the field: talking stick

2005-05-24 Thread Chris Corrigan
Yay! Chris On 5/24/05, Gerard Muller wrote: > > Dear all, > > Earlier on I wrote I always ask the sponsor to choose and introduce a > talking stick. > > While most do not find this an easy thing to do, most select something > which I could not have thought of, >

Re: Talking stick reaches India

2003-09-13 Thread Linda E. Laddin
rd to see you all. With warm regards Malay Quoting Marei Kiele : > Dear Malay, > > how wonderful to know that the talking stick is waiting in Goa. > If she/he/it has made it - I can to. That is what I plan and look forward to > since Bramstrup. > > It's very encouraging to

Re: Talking stick reaches India

2003-09-10 Thread Malay Biswas
With warm regards Malay Quoting Marei Kiele : > Dear Malay, > > how wonderful to know that the talking stick is waiting in Goa. > If she/he/it has made it - I can to. That is what I plan and look forward to > since Bramstrup. > > It's very encouraging to get a mail from In

Re: Talking stick reaches safely to India

2003-09-10 Thread Marei Kiele
Dear Malay, how wonderful to know that the talking stick is waiting in Goa. If she/he/it has made it - I can to. That is what I plan and look forward to since Bramstrup. It's very encouraging to get a mail from India every now and then to stay in touch with OSonOS. Thank you so much for

Talking stick reaches safely to India

2003-09-08 Thread Malay Biswas
Dear All, I am pleased to inform you all that the 'Talking Stick" reached India safely and now it is with me. I feel proud to have it in my hand again and it takes me back to the memory lane when I hold it last time in my hand. It is precious and holds stories of so many heart

The OSonOS-talking stick is leaving for Bramstrup

2003-08-20 Thread Thomas Herrmann
Dear friends Just wanted to tell the world that the lovely carved talking stick is now leaving for Bramstrup. Let´s see who picks it up. I do have a pretty good guess where its gonna go. See some of you soon, the rest of you are of course invited to pop in and read and comment proceedings at

Re: Talking Stick

2001-10-15 Thread Esther .
David: What a wonderful poem. Thank you. Esther Ewing The Change Alliance 330 East 38th St. Suite 53K, New York, NY 10016 New York Line: 212-661-6024 Toronto Line: 416-209-0481 Assisting Individuals and Organizations to Grow Capability

Re: Talking Stick

2001-10-15 Thread Chris Weaver
Perhaps it is time to walk without knowing, to hold out our questions as petals on a treasured flower which at the brink of rage awakens care and tenderness and is gone Ah! David Adams, words so lovely & full of secret power, thank you. -chris

Talking Stick

2001-10-14 Thread David Adams
Please hold the talking stick a while longer, Florian, it rests well with you a baton for the authority of gentleness; a wand of magic wonder at the universe; a beacon of the power of innocence. Here it is autumn. This place is buried in a mist. Human spirits are weighed in sorrow, anger and

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-17 Thread Larry Peterson
Mike & Harrison & all In October I had the opportunity to work with Innuit Community Justice leaders in Baker Lake in Open Space. I used one of the pink rocks that are common to Baker Lake and give the snow a pink colour at times. There were some amazing stories told about the rock in the 2.5 ho

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-17 Thread Harrison Owen
At 08:33 PM 3/16/00 -0700, you wrote: >Friends > >In December I was animating an Open space in Iqaluit on Baffin Island in the >High Arctic--mostly with Inuit folks. Needed a talking stick but they are >not a tradition among the Inuit. They don't have any sticks because they

Talking Stick

2000-03-16 Thread Mike Bell
Friends In December I was animating an Open space in Iqaluit on Baffin Island in the High Arctic--mostly with Inuit folks. Needed a talking stick but they are not a tradition among the Inuit. They don't have any sticks because they don't have any wood, because they don't

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-16 Thread Larry Peterson
Yep Ralph: I've used rocks, feathers, TV Changers, logs, flowers, pine cones, a president's gavel, rattles (Cree): Whatever is appropriate to the group, the situation and the spirit that is present. These usually make themselves known to me as I walk around the area where the OS is being held.

Talking Stick

2000-03-16 Thread Ralph Copleman
Hi, Had another open space meeting yesterday. What to use instead as a talking stick...? I've become sensitive to sticks of any kind as being too "male" so I don't use them anymore. Last week I used a little rubber soccer ball, about 1/3 normal size. Yesterday I us

Re: talking stick

2000-03-02 Thread Viv McWaters
Hi Ingrid and others Thank you for your suggestions - I love the idea of a stone and will use that in the future. I have also used the branch of a gum tree and a rain stick. In this instance I decided on the inflatable globe as it was a good symbol for an event that led into an International Landc

talking stick

2000-03-02 Thread Ingrid Olausson
Why not use a stone? You will find one at the nearest beach or just outside the conference location. A small stone is easy to hold in your hand and it gets warmer and warmer when it is passed round the circle. Ingrid Olausson

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-02 Thread Nigel Rawlins
I often look around for something appropriate. Once I used a an old plastic umbrella I found in a cupboard ( working with nurses in a hospital ), another time a prop (a branch with gum leaves) used by a group prior to the talk. How about a shovel? Cheers Nigel Rawlins

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Robert . Chaffe
Viv If you have not got a boomerang or set of message sticks, I suggest a globe or a ball that represents the earth. Then while the participants are speaking they are holding the world in their hands - the hands that form the landcare symbol. All the very best, it sounds like a lot of fun. Regards

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Denis Cowan
social and environmental movement) from the Phillipines, Indonesia, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, USA, New Zealand and Australia. Any ideas on what I could use as an appropriate and culturally sensitive talking stick? (easily obtainable too!) Cheers Viv Viv McWaters Beyond the Edge Pty Ltd 45

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Don Ferretti
ceremonies. >>> Murli Nagasundaram 03/01/00 11:33AM >>> Don, what is the origin of the rain stick? Thanks. Murli At 10:14 AM 3/1/00 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:14:58 -0800 >Reply-To: OSLIST >Sender: OSLIST >From: Don Ferretti >Subj

Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Viv McWaters
could use as an appropriate and culturally sensitive talking stick? (easily obtainable too!) Cheers Viv Viv McWaters Beyond the Edge Pty Ltd 45 Valentine Street, Ivanhoe 3079 Victoria Australia Ph/Fax: 61 3 9499 9300 "Thus the task is not so much to see what no-one yet has seen, but to think w

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Alan Stewart
I have found that the Tibetan temple bells, with which I signal to participants at various times in an open space gathering, make an appropriate 'talking stick.' The diversity of respectful ways in which people handle the bells is itself a feature of the closing circle. Good to conv

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Don, what is the origin of the rain stick? Thanks. Murli At 10:14 AM 3/1/00 -0800, you wrote: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:14:58 -0800 Reply-To: OSLIST Sender: OSLIST From: Don Ferretti Subject: Re: Talking Stick X-To: alan.stew...@flinders.edu.au To: osl

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Don Ferretti
I have been using a rain stick for a stick talking stick. Its even effective in letting people know the closing is starting. Just standing there tipping it back and forth a few times has been enough. It is fun to introduce the rain stick and its origin. Then introduce the talking stick ceremony

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Ralph Copleman
Viv and others, I use a globe, as someone else has suggested. I also take Florian's advice to heart. Ralph Copleman http://www.earthdreams.net 609-895-1629 -- >From: Viv McWaters >To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >Subject: Talking Stick >Date: Tue, Feb 29, 2000,

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Florian Fischer
Viv McWaters schrieb: > Any ideas on what I could use as an appropriate and culturally sensitive > talking stick? (easily obtainable too!) > hi viv, walk around during the groups are working, stay open, something will come to your attention, to be used as talking stick. dont worry. florian

Re: Talking Stick

2000-03-01 Thread Harrison Owen
etnam, USA, New Zealand and Australia. > >Any ideas on what I could use as an appropriate and culturally sensitive >talking stick? (easily obtainable too!) * Personally I favor an evergreen bough. It is living, smells good, and is androgeneous. In additi

Re: talking stick to rain stick

1999-02-07 Thread owen
>Thanks to all who gave of their time to fill me in on the talking stick. What I >got from that is....The talking stick is as old as the tribes. If you hold it >you talk with respect. If you don't hold it, you listen with respect. When you >are done with it, place it someplace r

talking stick to rain stick

1999-02-04 Thread Don Ferretti
__ Reply Separator _ Thanks to all who gave of their time to fill me in on the talking stick. What I got from that isThe talking stick is as old as the tribes. If you hold it you talk with respect. If you don't hold it, you l

Re: Talking Stick

1999-02-01 Thread Birgitt Bolton
As I understand the tradition of the Six Nations Native People in North America, all that has been said about the talking stick so far is so. However, there is more, and this we don't do well in Open Space---at least the longest talking stick ritual that I'm aware that any of us has don

Re: Talking Stick

1999-02-01 Thread owen
At 01:29 PM 1/31/99 -0800, you wrote: >A conversation for anyone interested in responding. I would appreciate >knowing: > >What is the origin of the "talking stick?" How have people used it in a Open >Space meetings? > > >Don Ferretti > >

Re: Talking Stick

1999-02-01 Thread Pete Hovde
Hi Don, I am not sure of the origin of the talking stick and would very much like to know what you find out. I thought I knew but someone told me they didn't think it was a Native American tradition as I thought. I can tell you how I use it however. I use it each time in the closing sessi

Talking Stick

1999-01-31 Thread Don Ferretti
A conversation for anyone interested in responding. I would appreciate knowing: What is the origin of the "talking stick?" How have people used it in a Open Space meetings? Don Ferretti __ Reply Separator _