They cry, ... but, but, I dont want Elon Musk to take away my ability to
take away other peoples free speech...
Good luck to all of us who now live in Retaliation Nation... may the farce
not be with you...!
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A new government disinformation board gets created to advance homeland
security. We will all be much safer now. My new plank of OST is now even
more important: Leadership Loyalty. The failure to practice it will be at
the peril of participants...
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because of Hurricane Season in Florida (unpredictable). May is a great time
> of the year because of the beautiful weather and lower pricing outside of the
> traditional tourist season.
>
> Yesterday, I left the beautiful talking stick with Sharon Joy Kleitsch, a
> member of our plan
Excellent…
That talking stick was a personal gift from me to the worldwide OSonOS
community, used when Laurel Doersam and I hosted the gathering here in
Vancouver in 2001. For eleven years it has circled the globe.
The stick is a small version of the west coast talking sticks used in
May is a great time of
the year because of the beautiful weather and lower pricing outside of the
traditional tourist season.
Yesterday, I left the beautiful talking stick with Sharon Joy Kleitsch, a
member of our planning team, where she will be giving it a place of honor in
her home in St
anne Daigle
>To: OSLIST
>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:41:00 PM
>Subject: [OSList] The WOSonOS Talking Stick...safe and sound in Florida!
>
>
>WOW...wow...WOW indeed! ...to borrow from Thomas Herman describing WOSonOS
>2012.
>
>A day of travel, body a bit jet-la
Suzanne-jan and all salam!
Just want to say congrats and how excited I am that you are your team will be
hosting the WOSonOS in Florida next year. Wow!
And want to say hats off to you all across the Great Pond who organized the
London WOSonOS.
I am very grateful that you posted the reports. A
outside of the traditional tourist season.
Yesterday, I left the beautiful talking stick with Sharon Joy Kleitsch, a
member of our planning team, where she will be giving it a place of honor
in her home in St Petersburg. Her front balcony overlooks a beautiful
park, palm trees and the sea. It is becaus
ge! look out for when we are near you and join us!
http://devotedanddisgruntled.com/
http://festival.london2012.com/events/9000961699
Last off just to let you know that very excitingly we managed to meet up with
the wonderful Karen Davies in New York and Dear Chile friends you will be happy
to k
as it
went around the circle - and both its material and its shape were very
symbolic. And I use them just as the talking stick would be used.
Chris, what a great invitation and idea. Harvest moon. Beautiful. Time to
harvest, to be deeply grateful.
Love, Catherine
Catherine Pfaehler Senn
Open
The Talking Stick has become sort of an "institution" in Open Space, if only
because it seems to fit with what we do and the way we do it. For those of
you who may not be familiar with it -- the talking stick is the singular
gift of the 1st Nation People of the North America. Doubt
Thanks to all fellow spaceholders for your replies.
Chris, first time I've heard that there may be no wrong way of holding the
Talking Stick.
I find the Harvest Moon OSonOS idea intriguing and would love to make a
Vancouver OSonOS.
Catherine, thank you for sharing about use of the egg
No wrong way to hold THAT talking stick.
In the cultures of the West Coast of Canada here, there is definitely a
wrong way to hold a talking stick. Protocol is very important in ceremonies
here, in fact diplomatic relations can chill markedly over the way someone
acts in the longhouse
Hi Raffi,
I understand how the talking stick may feel awkward. To me, this is a tool that
helps to bring respect and dignity to a conversation through deep listening.
And it reminds us of the spirit of OST. As you suggest, I usually leave it in
the middle of the circle and provide something
Hi Raffi, Louise, and all,
Instead of bringing my own much-loved talking stick, I've shifted to
watching for what might emerge in the group as a meaningful "talking
object", maybe like your marker, Louise. That's the best because it's
attached to the group mind.
Gerard and all
I thank you for posting these moving words from the Somalian woman,
they are of general truth for Africans who try to settle in Europe
I think
Best greetings from Mocambique to all after a long time of absence from the list
Bernd Weber
Am Tue, 24 May 2005 17:47:40 +0200, schrieb G
Am Tue, 24 May 2005 17:47:40 +0200, schrieb Gerard Muller:
> Dear all,
>
> Earlier on I wrote I always ask the sponsor to choose and introduce
> a talking stick.
>
> While most do not find this an easy thing to do, most select
> something which I could not have thought of,
Thanks, Gerard, for the beautiful example of what can happen when you ask
someone to bring a talking piece for the closing. The gravity of the task can
draw out true eliquence.
Joelle
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Thank you, Gerard, for sharing this wonderful story of the Somali key.
I do not like talking sticks and I do not use them but this story
might shift my resistance.
Warmly,
Therese Fitzpatrick, MSOD, JD
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osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Dear all,
Earlier on I wrote I always ask the sponsor to choose and introduce a
talking stick.
While most do not find this an easy thing to do, most select something
which I could not have thought of,
and more often than not the words they introduce the talking stick with
are something which
Yay!
Chris
On 5/24/05, Gerard Muller wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Earlier on I wrote I always ask the sponsor to choose and introduce a
> talking stick.
>
> While most do not find this an easy thing to do, most select something
> which I could not have thought of,
>
rd to see you all.
With warm regards
Malay
Quoting Marei Kiele :
> Dear Malay,
>
> how wonderful to know that the talking stick is waiting in Goa.
> If she/he/it has made it - I can to. That is what I plan and look
forward to
> since Bramstrup.
>
> It's very encouraging to
With warm regards
Malay
Quoting Marei Kiele :
> Dear Malay,
>
> how wonderful to know that the talking stick is waiting in Goa.
> If she/he/it has made it - I can to. That is what I plan and look forward to
> since Bramstrup.
>
> It's very encouraging to get a mail from In
Dear Malay,
how wonderful to know that the talking stick is waiting in Goa.
If she/he/it has made it - I can to. That is what I plan and look forward to
since Bramstrup.
It's very encouraging to get a mail from India every now and then to stay in
touch with OSonOS.
Thank you so much for
Dear All,
I am pleased to inform you all that the 'Talking Stick" reached India safely
and now it is with me. I feel proud to have it in my hand again and it takes me
back to the memory lane when I hold it last time in my hand. It is precious and
holds stories of so many heart
Dear friends
Just wanted to tell the world that the lovely carved talking stick is now
leaving for Bramstrup. Let´s see who picks it up. I do have a pretty good
guess where its gonna go.
See some of you soon, the rest of you are of course invited to pop in and
read and comment proceedings at
David:
What a wonderful poem. Thank you.
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Perhaps it is time to walk without knowing,
to hold out our questions
as petals on a treasured flower
which at the brink of rage
awakens care and tenderness
and is gone
Ah! David Adams, words so lovely & full of secret power, thank you.
-chris
Please hold the talking stick a while longer, Florian,
it rests well with you
a baton for the authority of gentleness;
a wand of magic wonder at the universe;
a beacon of the power of innocence.
Here it is autumn. This place is buried in a mist.
Human spirits are weighed in sorrow, anger and
Mike & Harrison & all
In October I had the opportunity to work with Innuit Community Justice
leaders in Baker Lake in Open Space. I used one of the pink rocks that are
common to Baker Lake and give the snow a pink colour at times. There were
some amazing stories told about the rock in the 2.5 ho
At 08:33 PM 3/16/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Friends
>
>In December I was animating an Open space in Iqaluit on Baffin Island in the
>High Arctic--mostly with Inuit folks. Needed a talking stick but they are
>not a tradition among the Inuit. They don't have any sticks because they
Friends
In December I was animating an Open space in Iqaluit on Baffin Island in the
High Arctic--mostly with Inuit folks. Needed a talking stick but they are not a
tradition among the Inuit. They don't have any sticks because they don't have
any wood, because they don't
Yep Ralph:
I've used rocks, feathers, TV Changers, logs, flowers, pine cones, a
president's gavel, rattles (Cree): Whatever is appropriate to the group,
the situation and the spirit that is present. These usually make
themselves known to me as I walk around the area where the OS is being held.
Hi,
Had another open space meeting yesterday. What to use instead as a talking
stick...? I've become sensitive to sticks of any kind as being too "male"
so I don't use them anymore.
Last week I used a little rubber soccer ball, about 1/3 normal size.
Yesterday I us
Hi Ingrid and others
Thank you for your suggestions - I love the idea of a stone and will use
that in the future. I have also used the branch of a gum tree and a rain
stick. In this instance I decided on the inflatable globe as it was a good
symbol for an event that led into an International Landc
Why not use a stone? You will find one at the nearest beach or just outside the
conference location. A small stone is easy to hold in your hand and it gets
warmer and warmer when it is passed round the circle.
Ingrid Olausson
I often look around for something appropriate. Once I used a an old
plastic umbrella I found in a cupboard ( working with nurses in a
hospital ), another time a prop (a branch with gum leaves) used by a
group prior to the talk.
How about a shovel?
Cheers
Nigel Rawlins
Viv
If you have not got a boomerang or set of message sticks, I suggest a globe or a
ball that represents the earth. Then while the participants are speaking they
are holding the world in their hands - the hands that form the landcare symbol.
All the very best, it sounds like a lot of fun.
Regards
social and environmental
movement) from the Phillipines, Indonesia, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand,
Vietnam, USA, New Zealand and Australia.
Any ideas on what I could use as an appropriate and culturally sensitive
talking stick? (easily obtainable too!)
Cheers
Viv
Viv McWaters
Beyond the Edge Pty Ltd
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ceremonies.
>>> Murli Nagasundaram 03/01/00 11:33AM >>>
Don, what is the origin of the rain stick? Thanks. Murli
At 10:14 AM 3/1/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:14:58 -0800
>Reply-To: OSLIST
>Sender: OSLIST
>From: Don Ferretti
>Subj
could use as an appropriate and culturally sensitive
talking stick? (easily obtainable too!)
Cheers
Viv
Viv McWaters
Beyond the Edge Pty Ltd
45 Valentine Street, Ivanhoe 3079
Victoria Australia
Ph/Fax: 61 3 9499 9300
"Thus the task is not so much to see what no-one yet has seen, but to think
w
I have found that the Tibetan temple bells, with which I signal to
participants
at various times in an open space gathering, make an appropriate 'talking
stick.'
The diversity of respectful ways in which people handle the bells is itself
a feature
of the closing circle.
Good to conv
Don, what is the origin of the rain stick? Thanks. Murli
At 10:14 AM 3/1/00 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:14:58 -0800
Reply-To: OSLIST
Sender: OSLIST
From: Don Ferretti
Subject: Re: Talking Stick
X-To: alan.stew...@flinders.edu.au
To: osl
I have been using a rain stick for a stick talking stick. Its even effective in
letting people know the closing is starting. Just standing there tipping it
back and forth a few times has been enough. It is fun to introduce the rain
stick and its origin. Then introduce the talking stick ceremony
Viv and others,
I use a globe, as someone else has suggested. I also take Florian's advice
to heart.
Ralph Copleman
http://www.earthdreams.net
609-895-1629
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>From: Viv McWaters
>To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
>Subject: Talking Stick
>Date: Tue, Feb 29, 2000,
Viv McWaters schrieb:
> Any ideas on what I could use as an appropriate and culturally sensitive
> talking stick? (easily obtainable too!)
>
hi viv,
walk around during the groups are working,
stay open, something will come to your attention,
to be used as talking stick. dont worry.
florian
etnam, USA, New Zealand and Australia.
>
>Any ideas on what I could use as an appropriate and culturally sensitive
>talking stick? (easily obtainable too!)
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Personally I favor an evergreen bough. It is living, smells good, and is
androgeneous. In additi
>Thanks to all who gave of their time to fill me in on the talking stick. What
I
>got from that is....The talking stick is as old as the tribes. If you hold it
>you talk with respect. If you don't hold it, you listen with respect. When you
>are done with it, place it someplace r
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Thanks to all who gave of their time to fill me in on the talking stick. What I
got from that isThe talking stick is as old as the tribes. If you hold it
you talk with respect. If you don't hold it, you l
As I understand the tradition of the Six Nations Native People in North
America, all that has been said about the talking stick so far is so.
However, there is more, and this we don't do well in Open Space---at least
the longest talking stick ritual that I'm aware that any of us has don
At 01:29 PM 1/31/99 -0800, you wrote:
>A conversation for anyone interested in responding. I would appreciate
>knowing:
>
>What is the origin of the "talking stick?" How have people used it in a Open
>Space meetings?
>
>
>Don Ferretti
>
>
Hi Don,
I am not sure of the origin of the talking stick and would very much like
to know what you find out. I thought I knew but someone told me they
didn't think it was a Native American tradition as I thought.
I can tell you how I use it however. I use it each time in the closing
sessi
A conversation for anyone interested in responding. I would appreciate knowing:
What is the origin of the "talking stick?" How have people used it in a Open
Space meetings?
Don Ferretti
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