Re: [OSList] The OST Game (was: Genuinely open Agile adoptions)

2013-10-06 Thread Michael Herman
oh, and... skye... i don't think naming has to be about controlling. sometimes we say face, sometimes nose, sometimes nostril, or deeper still sinuses. sometimes it's just about higher resolution understanding. -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHe

Re: [OSList] The OST Game (was: Genuinely open Agile adoptions)

2013-10-06 Thread Michael Herman
what your quoting suggests to me, dan, is a distinction akin to what i've already shared about tools/techniques versus practice. in another message you've suggested rules, feedback etc, and defined ost as a game. what i hear harrison saying in the quoting here, though, suggests that organization

Re: [OSList] The OST Game (was: Genuinely open Agile adoptions)

2013-10-06 Thread Skye Hirst
I guess I want to play in this "game". Feedback implies mechanistic processes that have been identified through cause and effect responses. This is where we get into trouble. Life is not machine like, in any way. It is complex and not complicated as a set of gears and cogs can become if there a

The OST Game (was: Genuinely open Agile adoptions)

2013-10-06 Thread Daniel Mezick
Hi Harold, In THE CULTURE GAME book I make the radical/heretical claim that culture is a game...and every meeting...a game and in fact every interaction... is a game. In the book there are examples that support the idea that all meetings are games. According to this theory, if OST is a