hierarchy...was report from the field

2007-07-15 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
Hi all, again! This thread reminds me of a question posed by a trainer in an OST mini-learning workshop last year: "Is there a mainstream and a margins in the OST practitioner community?" He was referring to the work of Arnold Mindell, founder of process psychology, and his work with rank and di

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2007-07-15 Thread Christy Lee-Engel
Dear Raffi and all, My first response, from my own experience (and interpreting "mainstream" as longer-time practitioners and community members and "margins" as new arrivals), is: through warm invitation and genuine welcome and interest. love, Christy -- Christy Lee-Engel, ND, LAc cell: 206.399

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2007-07-15 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
l questions. Real questions have no answers, they only open more space and take you deeper. And when you have lots of space (up, down, sideways, wherever)-- then the fun begins. Harrison -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Raffi Aftandelian Sen

Re: hierarchy...was report from the field

2007-07-15 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear Raffi, I am for introducing weightiness as a category for establishing Hierarchy in the os community. Love those quakers! If you all agree this would put me way up there at 98 kg. Have a grand weekend Greetings from Berlin picking red currants on a hot summer day...I can tell you that the

hierarchy...was report from the field

2007-07-15 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
Friends and colleagues-- I'm really enjoying this thread. Harrison-- Thank you for this gem: "The antidote for all of that is the arrival of fresh eyes with apparently "dumb questions." There are no dumb questions that are also real questions. Real questions have no answers, they only open more

Re: hierarchy...was report from the field

2007-07-15 Thread Pat Black
I like the language of jazz to describe what happens in Open Space and I think open space closely mirrors what happens in a jazz performance. When people come to open space I think of them as an ensemble. They come to bring their musical voice to the group. There is no set score written and foll

Re: hierarchy...was report from the field

2007-07-15 Thread Harrison Owen
Behalf Of Raffi Aftandelian Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:08 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: hierarchy...was report from the field Greetings friends and colleagues-- Harrison you wrote: "The other day I got a note which said in part, "I was surprised to find out that ther

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2007-07-15 Thread Chris Corrigan
estate.edu] On Behalf Of Raffi Aftandelian Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:08 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: hierarchy...was report from the field Greetings friends and colleagues-- Harrison you wrote: "The other day I got a note which said in part, "I was surprised to fi

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2007-07-14 Thread Kaliya Hamlin
Here is a link to the graphic that is in this e-mail... http://www.kaliyasblogs.net/images/OpenSource.tiff On Jul 14, 2007, at 2:36 PM, Kaliya Hamlin wrote: Follow up. I was asked what does 'the right to fork' mean. Perhaps a step back and understanding what they are forking (dividing in two

Re: hierarchy...was report from the field

2007-07-14 Thread Kaliya Hamlin
Follow up. I was asked what does 'the right to fork' mean. Perhaps a step back and understanding what they are forking (dividing in two copies and code base diverges). I am not a coder - I have worked with communities and people who do code for several years know. My description is somewhat

hierarchy...was report from the field

2007-07-14 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
Greetings friends and colleagues-- Harrison you wrote: "The other day I got a note which said in part, "I was surprised to find out that there was a hierarchy in the OST community and everyone having a specific place to hold, voices are not equal and politics prevails in certain circuits Just th

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2007-07-14 Thread Kaliya Hamlin
Sigh, Human communities do this for good reason. It works. Everyone is not 'equal' in the sense that we all have different experience and different knowledge. Some people are naturally skilled at holding space and others well they haven't learned it yet.Newbies to a practice, tech