Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth via Outages
- Original Message - > From: "Michael Loftis via Outages" > It's not just the local. 8.8.8.8 is caching the old entry still. > Check the authoritative resolvers. Point of order: No "resolvers" are "authoritative". "Resolvers" (or, more fully, "Customer resolver servers") are servers op

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Damian Menscher via Outages
For future reference: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/cache will let you request a cache flush. Damian On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:46 PM, John Barbieri via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote: > In the process of moving, these commands were all run within 5 seconds. > > > jbarbieri

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Barbieri via Outages
In the process of moving, these commands were all run within 5 seconds. jbarbieri@jbarbieri-asus:~$ host heartbeat.belkin.com 8.8.8.8 Using domain server: Name: 8.8.8.8 Address: 8.8.8.8#53 Aliases: heartbeat.belkin.com has address 54.163.74.132 heartbeat.belkin.com has address 54.163.87.225 hea

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Jeremy Chadwick via Outages
It looks to me, when querying Belkin's setup directly, they are returning RR A records. (Please pay attention to the "QUESTION SECTION" below, as it's going to become relevant): $ dig @a.gtld-servers.net ns belkin.com. ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;belkin.com.IN NS ;; AUTHORITY

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Michael Loftis via Outages
It's not just the local. 8.8.8.8 is caching the old entry still. Check the authoritative resolvers. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Grant Ridder via Outages wrote: > Your large host list looks like it is just your local resolver. > > host heartbeat.belkin.com 8.8.8.8 > > Using domain server: > >

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Luke Rockwell via Outages
http://tcrn.ch/1y30B6H On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Chris Adams via Outages wrote: > Once upon a time, Grant Ridder via Outages said: > > Your large host list looks like it is just your local resolver. > > DNS records have been changed; it is now hosted on Amazon. > > $ dig +trace heartbea

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Frank Bulk via Outages
Subject: Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] Your large host list looks like it is just your local resolver. host heartbeat.belkin.com <http://heartbeat.belkin.com> 8.8.8.8 Using domain server: Name: 8.8.8.8 Address: 8.8.8.8#53 Aliases: heartbeat.belkin.com

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Chris Adams via Outages
Once upon a time, Grant Ridder via Outages said: > Your large host list looks like it is just your local resolver. DNS records have been changed; it is now hosted on Amazon. $ dig +trace heartbeat.belkin.com ; <<>> DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.23.rc1.el6_5.1 <<>> @c.root-servers.net +trace hear

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Grant Ridder via Outages
Your large host list looks like it is just your local resolver. host heartbeat.belkin.com 8.8.8.8 Using domain server: Name: 8.8.8.8 Address: 8.8.8.8#53 Aliases: heartbeat.belkin.com has address 67.20.176.130 On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Paul Miller via Outages wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07,

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Frank Bulk via Outages
I wish they added 127.0.0.1 to that list. =) Frank -Original Message- From: Outages [mailto:outages-boun...@outages.org] On Behalf Of Paul Miller via Outages Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 3:48 PM To: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] On Tue, Oct

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Paul Miller via Outages
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 02:43:13PM -0400, Nick Olsen via Outages wrote: > The current thought (Around the NOC here) is that DNS is breaking due to > another user friendly feature. Where the router forwards you to it's config > page automatically, if it thinks you have no internet.. I still don'

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Carsten Bormann via Outages
On 07 Oct 2014, at 19:57, Frank Bulk via Outages wrote: > Why do that if Belkin is up and running again? This thing seems to go down and up like a yoyo. (I’m seeing it one hop behind 66.179.229.150 — works this very moment.) Can’t get a reliable OS fingerprint (unless it’s an Airport Extreme…).

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Neiberger via Outages
..@outages.org] *On Behalf Of *John > Neiberger via Outages > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:42 PM > *To:* outages@outages.org > > > *Subject:* Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] > > > > Has anyone else tried the loopback/heartbeat workaroun

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Nick Olsen via Outages
en Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: "John Neiberger via Outages" Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:32 PM To: "Frank Bulk" Cc: "outages@outages.org" Subject: Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] I jus

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Roland Dobbins via Outages
On Oct 8, 2014, at 12:57 AM, Frank Bulk via Outages wrote: > Why do that if Belkin is up and running again? So that it doesn't recur if things get dorked up, again? It's a great DDoS vector - take down that IP, wedge every affected Belkin CPE on the Internet. This kind of thing is extremely

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Neiberger via Outages
; >> *From:* Outages [mailto:outages-boun...@outages.org] *On Behalf Of *John >> Neiberger via Outages >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:42 PM >> *To:* outages@outages.org >> >> *Subject:* Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] >> >> >

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Josh Luthman via Outages
day, October 07, 2014 12:42 PM > *To:* outages@outages.org > > *Subject:* Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] > > > > Has anyone else tried the loopback/heartbeat workaround with success? I've > seen a few reports so far that this has temporarily solved the problem. >

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Frank Bulk via Outages
PM To: Frank Bulk Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] Given the number of current social media postings, it doesn't appear that they are back up yet, but I suppose it is hard to say for sure given the number of people affected. Twitter is all afl

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Neiberger via Outages
> > > > *From:* John Neiberger [mailto:jneiber...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 1:01 PM > *To:* Frank Bulk > *Cc:* outages@outages.org > > *Subject:* Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] > > > > Given the number of current social media postings, it

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Neiberger via Outages
that > Belkin doesn’t have it all worked out? > > > > Frank > > > > *From:* Outages [mailto:outages-boun...@outages.org] *On Behalf Of *John > Neiberger via Outages > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:42 PM > *To:* outages@outages.org > > *Subject:* Re: [ou

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Josh Luthman via Outages
..@outages.org] *On Behalf Of *John >> Neiberger via Outages >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:04 AM >> *To:* Josh Luthman >> *Cc:* outages@outages.org; John Barbieri >> *Subject:* Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] >> >> >>

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Frank Bulk via Outages
: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] Has anyone else tried the loopback/heartbeat workaround with success? I've seen a few reports so far that this has temporarily solved the problem. John On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Frank Bulk mailto:frnk...@iname.com> > wrote:

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Neiberger via Outages
1:04 AM > *To:* Josh Luthman > *Cc:* outages@outages.org; John Barbieri > *Subject:* Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] > > > > I think it was initially suspected to be a firmware upgrade, but I doubt > that's the case now. It's interesting to me that there are two

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Neiberger via Outages
I just saw a forum post where Belkin recommended manually setting DNS to see if that solves the problem. Putting all of this together, this is my best guess as to what happened. 1. Routers regularly send heartbeat messages to heartbeat.belkin.com 2. Some routing failure causes quite a few netblock

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Frank Bulk via Outages
, October 07, 2014 11:04 AM To: Josh Luthman Cc: outages@outages.org; John Barbieri Subject: Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] I think it was initially suspected to be a firmware upgrade, but I doubt that's the case now. It's interesting to me that there are two seemingly

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Barbieri via Outages
DSLR: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29585798-Belkin-Router-Owners-Take-Note. And I am thinking the same thing you are. Doubt resi users upgraded their router overnight. Like you said, chances are it has to do with that heartbeat. Asked a few folks around the US to ping it, some successful

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Neiberger via Outages
I think it was initially suspected to be a firmware upgrade, but I doubt that's the case now. It's interesting to me that there are two seemingly unrelated fixes: 1. Put the IP for heartbeat.belkin.com on a loopback 2. Manually add working DNS entries to affected PCs Reports indicate that either

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Josh Luthman via Outages
67.20.176.130 to a pingable IP? > > > > Frank > > > > *From:* Outages [mailto:outages-boun...@outages.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh > Luthman via Outages > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:42 AM > *To:* Paul Miller > *Cc:* outages@outages.org > *Subject:* Re: [outages] B

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Frank Bulk via Outages
Miller Cc: outages@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com] Just because you can ping it does not mean it will work. I've confirmed with other users this is the case. I believe there is some sort of HTTP request that confirms the connection is working (like Wi

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Josh Luthman via Outages
Where? I keep reading "bad firmware" problems but everything suggests there is no automatic upgrade and I think we can safely assume resi users didn't upgrade their routers over night. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 7,

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Josh Luthman via Outages
Just because you can ping it does not mean it will work. I've confirmed with other users this is the case. I believe there is some sort of HTTP request that confirms the connection is working (like Windows, Android, etc). Another resolution is to just loopback 67.20.176.130 (seems to be this IP

Re: [outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread John Barbieri via Outages
Funny, Just saw something about Belkin routers and a botched firmware upgrade. I wonder if this is what they meant. That being said, it is working fine from Zito Media in Clanton, AL. --John On 10/07/2014 10:17 AM, Paul Miller via Outages wrote: On one of my netblocks my subscribers can nolon

[outages] Belkin [heartbeat.belkin.com]

2014-10-07 Thread Paul Miller via Outages
On one of my netblocks my subscribers can nolonger ping Belkin. I can ping heartbeat.belkin.com from my webservers and from subscriber units on a different netblock. Apparently Belkin routers ping the home base every couple seconds to determine the correct color of the Internet light on the route