Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-10 Thread Chris Green
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 10:26:49AM -0400, Daniel MacKay wrote: Chris: The non 1-Wire ones that you can buy in the store are like this: http://centameter.co.nz/ ... if you want just the component for the DIY solution, google for split core transformer. Ah, yes, I've found split

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Jan Kandziora
Am 10.02.2014 00:31, schrieb Colin Reese: Well, I want a cheap, small, low-power, bullet-proof sensor node. I want to be able to read loads of them, preferably in a developed, extendable framework, from a central sensor gateway, at the moment an RPi-based control unit. Nothing seems to meet

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Vajk Fekete
I do not see what is the reason against the linux box. I do not think you could get cheaper with an avr and Xbee than a tplink 703n, http://www.ebay.com/bhp/tp-link-tl-wr703n Vajk On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Colin Reese colin.re...@gmail.com wrote: I want to run a microcontroller with a

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Law
On 10 February 2014 12:01, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote: I do not see what is the reason against the linux box. I do not think you could get cheaper with an avr and Xbee than a tplink 703n, http://www.ebay.com/bhp/tp-link-tl-wr703n I presume one would need a usb/1wire adaptor with that.

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Jan Kandziora
Am 10.02.2014 13:20, schrieb Colin Law: On 10 February 2014 12:01, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote: I do not see what is the reason against the linux box. I do not think you could get cheaper with an avr and Xbee than a tplink 703n, http://www.ebay.com/bhp/tp-link-tl-wr703n I presume

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Vajk Fekete
There are several options - real usb 1wire host - pretty expensive - usb serial+serial host - use the internally available serial port (the console of the machine, like with rpi) and use a serial 1wire host - use some available gpio lines and do bit-banging I went for the first because this

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Law
On 10 February 2014 13:36, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote: There are several options - real usb 1wire host - pretty expensive - usb serial+serial host - use the internally available serial port (the console of the machine, Options 2 and 3 are not going to be significantly cheaper than

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Law
On 10 February 2014 12:38, Jan Kandziora j...@gmx.de wrote: Am 10.02.2014 13:20, schrieb Colin Law: On 10 February 2014 12:01, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote: I do not see what is the reason against the linux box. I do not think you could get cheaper with an avr and Xbee than a tplink

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Vajk Fekete
You do need some 1wire host for the AVR too. If not, that means you plan for bit banging and a passive interface. Same is possible with openwrt and a cheap router. An other option is the arduino YUN, which is an arduino and a wifi module. But the wifi module in there is a complete cheap home

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
I've no problem using a host chip like the ds2483, which I use all over the place. I'd strongly prefer this to bitbanging. On Feb 10, 2014, at 4:38, Jan Kandziora j...@gmx.de wrote: Am 10.02.2014 13:20, schrieb Colin Law: On 10 February 2014 12:01, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote: I do

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
I think serial host and bitbanging uc over xbee would work, but not for multiple remotes. On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:40, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 February 2014 13:36, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote: There are several options - real usb 1wire host - pretty expensive - usb

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
Interesting. Thank you. On Feb 10, 2014, at 4:01, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote: I do not see what is the reason against the linux box. I do not think you could get cheaper with an avr and Xbee than a tplink 703n, http://www.ebay.com/bhp/tp-link-tl-wr703n Vajk On Sun, Feb

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
You're not the only one there. On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:56, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote: You do need some 1wire host for the AVR too. If not, that means you plan for bit banging and a passive interface. Same is possible with openwrt and a cheap router. An other option is the

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Stuart Poulton
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Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
What about a ds2480 into an atmega running owserver code 'emulation' over wifi with an xbee or other wifi module? On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:56, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote: You do need some 1wire host for the AVR too. If not, that means you plan for bit banging and a passive interface.

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
I already use a Pi for the main gateway. It's big with enclosure and necessitates a PS. Think about having a sensor gateway at one point with remote modules in each room. It would be crazy to have a Pi in each room. Ideally the remotes could be battery powered. On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:20,

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Stuart Poulton
Sure, wasn't sure what the driver was for wireless. I think it's safe to say that things like Yun, TP-Link, Pi, and BBB all play in the same arena so can be ruled out. On 10/02/14 14:25, Colin Reese wrote: I already use a Pi for the main gateway. It's big with enclosure and necessitates a

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
Silly me; atmega328 has i2c. I can use the 2483, but need to get data out. Per the earlier conversation, can I mount the xbee serial /dev/AMA0 as a bus if running in transparent? I believe this us possible, but limited to one bus. This may have been previously discussed, but an API-mode

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Stuart Poulton
To be fair, I would have thought this was the ideal application for http://owfs.org/index.php?page=external-sensor-design Not sure where Paul is with support etc, if it even exits. On 10/02/14 14:36, Colin Reese wrote: Silly me; atmega328 has i2c. I can use the 2483, but need to get data

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
Yes! This is the 'glue' aspect I wrote of. If I know how to present data to owfs, I can write my serial listener or API poller to configure it as owfs would like. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Stuart Poulton webw...@gmail.com wrote: To be fair, I would have thought this was the ideal

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Vajk Fekete
it's up to you. a wifi xbee module is about twice as much as the tplink router I have linked. wifi, and tcpip are pretty complex protocols. to handle encryption, data rates and the protocols, you must have some real cpu with some real operating system. and once we have that, it will likely be

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
But the xbee is smaller and doesn't require hacking a router OS, which I'm not interested in doing. It also doesn't scale for production. It's just not designed for the job at all. With the openwrt router, what's the interface ? Bitbanging gpio? Usb chip? I have not seen reasonably priced

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Vajk Fekete
Neither me has seen reasonable hw for 6lowpan. Production is all different, I admit. Have to consider mid/long term availability of the components. Vajk On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Colin Reese colin.re...@gmail.com wrote: But the xbee is smaller and doesn't require hacking a router OS,

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-10 Thread Daniel MacKay
That being said my 1-Wire solution to measuring my house electricity usage was to buy a Dual Counter from Hobby Boards: I'm thinking of asking them or Sheep Walk if they'd be interested in producing a board with a DS2450 and a 4-channel op amp on it, and the diode, and picking a compatible

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Colin Reese
Anybody chime in with status on this? I think this will be where I go. On 2/10/2014 06:47, Stuart Poulton wrote: To be fair, I would have thought this was the ideal application for http://owfs.org/index.php?page=external-sensor-design Not sure where Paul is with support etc, if it even

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-10 Thread Stuart Poulton
Be good to find out, I'm certainly interested in using this with my Wireless temp sensors, details here http://labs.homelabs.org.uk/wireless-temperature-sensor-using-ciseco-rfu-328/ Stuart On 11/02/14 03:30, Colin Reese wrote: Anybody chime in with status on this? I think this will be where I