[ozmidwifery] gone forwards - gone backwards ?

2002-10-05 Thread Julie Clarke
Dear Robin I would suggest that in the 70's the opponents natural birth advocates were loud and ignorant - and I think that "true" midwives have always resisted the medical dominance - I'm sure we've all heard these stories from time to time - I'd suggest that as our society has gone through phase

[ozmidwifery] Young parents programme

2002-10-05 Thread Rumble Family
We currently run a young parents programme in conjuction with a midwife led ante natal clinic which seems to be successful but would be interested to hear from anyone about similar groups, structure etc. Sue -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

RE: [ozmidwifery] Tramadol

2002-10-05 Thread Margie Perkins
Hi Lisa I don't know about Tramadol use in labour but I've just been using it for viral meningitis. It did help with the pain in my head and neck but also made me very drowsy and have violent dreams( This could also have been the brain illness I suppose) I don't like the routine use of opiate-

Re: [ozmidwifery] pain relief

2002-10-05 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Dear Jane,   Many thanks for your prompt reply. However, my suspicions are that the teaching in some hospitals might differ to yours, and am seeking confirmation of that fact. Yours is the type I advocate. Liz    

Re: [ozmidwifery] pain relief

2002-10-05 Thread CJ Knight
Liz My teaching includes why women experience pain and the causes of the pain. We cover in some detail the hormonal interactions between oxytocin, endorphins and encephalins (?) and adrenalin. The effect of adrenalin and what causes its release slowing the progress of labour are followed thr

Re: [ozmidwifery] Tramadol

2002-10-05 Thread CJ Knight
Kirsten Nubain is nalbuphine hydrochloride while Tramadol is tramadol Hydrochloride (Known in Aust as Tramol and US as Ultram.  I have heard they are using Tramol as a postop analgesia for caesars here in WA (at KEMH but that may be as a clinical trial). Where did you source the half life in

[ozmidwifery] pain relief

2002-10-05 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Dear List,   I need some help for a paper I'm doing.     In 1999, I attended antenatal classes with my daughter.   On pain, the discussion progressed from nitrous oxide, pethidine to epidural, with nothing of the functions of pain for the mother and baby in natural birth, nor endorphins nor

Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!)

2002-10-05 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Dear Robin, In modern times, the 1930s was a push for birth reform through women's negative view of hospital birth.This was also the time of midwifery regulation and outlawing and the increasing power of obstetrics. The control of midwifery is very long standing, from about the 15th century!

[ozmidwifery] book sharing, reinforcement of PUSH FOR BIRTH REFORM ( VERY LONG)

2002-10-05 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Dear List,   I have to share this book - it will make you howl in anguish: it will reinforce your determination to change childbirth practices in this country through the NMAP.     Midwives must fight for natural birth.  Yes.. PUSH FOR BIRTH REFORM.   So, to those of us who may occasiona

Re: [ozmidwifery] Almost c/s - horrid shift (VERY LONG!)

2002-10-05 Thread Robin Moon
"I have found that midwifery in hospitals has gone backwards. " Oh. how true. Sadly. During one of my classes at uni this semester one the lecturers wanted us Master's students to outline ways in which nursing has gone forward in the past decade. I almost snorted into my coffee, for I am of the

RE: [ozmidwifery] midwifery stickers

2002-10-05 Thread Vicki Chan
Title: Message We are going to work on some, Larissa...Vicki -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Larissa & TimSent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:40 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] midwifer

RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Matters coffee morning, Adelaide

2002-10-05 Thread Vicki Chan
Title: Message Gee, organized huh? I must have missed that lesson! Vicki -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Aviva Sheb'aSent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:47 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Matter

Re: [ozmidwifery] Tramadol

2002-10-05 Thread Kirsten Blacker
Is tramadol the same as nubain (U.S)? I"m interested to know the likelihood of us using this drug one day in Aus. as it has only a 2 hour half life in babies.   Kirsten - Original Message - From: Vance & Edwina To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002

[ozmidwifery] interesting article on insurance

2002-10-05 Thread Kirsten Blacker
interesting article on insurance http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5228989%255E21902,00.html Kirsten still freezing my *** off in Minnesota, USA -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Tramadol

2002-10-05 Thread Vance & Edwina
Hi Lisa,   Did you ever find out more about Tramadol – I would be interested to hear the outcome.   Cheers, Edwina (midwife & mother, SA)   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lisa Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:06 PM To: [

[ozmidwifery] the list

2002-10-05 Thread Sheena Johnson
Hi listers   Am encouraging all my workmates to join the list, I have found it so informative. One of the questions they have asked me is how many people are there on the list? Does anyone have any idea?   Sheena Johnson Midwifery Student, Ballarat University