Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Women
it seems that when the hormone oxytocin is released as part of the stress
responses in a woman, it buffers the fight or flight response and
encourages her to tend children and gather with other women instead.
Yes Aviva, very interesting
Makes me even madder
Duck Aviva!!
A pinards is the 'ear trumpet' that was used to
listen to the baby's heart beat before the invention of sonicaids and monitors.
I have a beautiful hand turned pinards made from ash. Sadly many 'modern'
midwives don't have the comfidence to use one.
Sally
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Dear Sally,
I love your footnote Quote. Can you tell me who/what The Tao Te Ching is?
Cheers, Joanne.
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From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:36 AM
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That is
The Tao Te Ching, the ancient Chinese Book of the Tao was written by
philosopher Lao Tzu around 2500 BC. Not a religion, Taoism resembles
modern Physics in that it describes the nature of the universe, the laws
that govern it and the ideal ways that a person might place themselves
in harmony with
I feel that
more and more antenatal testing is done just because we can.
I always look
at testing to see if it will change management of a pregnancy.
If the
information is necessary for a decision then we do it for example if
someone is bleeding then a scan for positioning of
That's easy Rhonda, because they CAN and do because its easier than thinking about whether they SHOULD
Andrea Quanchi
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Sally,
I also have a pinnards that I use from time to time but I also use my dopplar. What I find is that there are times when one is more appropriate than the other. I find that to use the pinnards effectively I need to have the woman stationary ans in labour that proves tricky especially
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Andrea
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I also find that many woman and their families if given the choice,
choose the dopplar because they like ti hear it. The woman don't need you to
listen to it at all during pregnancy, They know mostly that their baby is OK
because they feel it move
We were each given a beautiful hand turned wooden
one on graduation from seattle midwifery School. And yes we had to be proficient
at using them as well as the various types of fetoscopes and of course the
doptone/doppler. The one draw back as far as I can tell is when using a
pinards in
Brilliant description Sally, glad I didn't jump in and give my own. marilyn
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From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:43 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Who/what The Tao Te Ching is?
The Tao Te Ching, the ancient
Has she had any ultrasounds done? The only reason i can think of is
something has shown up on the ultrasound which could indicate a higher incidence
of down syndrome. This could be the nuchal fold (a piece of fatty tissue behind
the neck) that is apparently larger in most but not all fetuses
Could be racism, or they want the money. Oh, no no no, I'm not a cynic.
There are greater experts than me on pregnancy. Over...
aviva
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From: Rhonda
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:50 PM
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I take my hat off to you if you can use a pinards
with the woman standing in labour. I feel I can use one well and reliably but
like I said earlier only with the woman in some kind of supine position. Maybe
that is because i am not just listening for a heartbeat but like you described
Thanks to all about pinnards! I've been
on the receiving end numerous times. To me, it was quaint, exciting and a fun
part of being pregnant. I always wanted to hear the heartbeat, and stethoscopes
were good for that. I'm thinking of getting a steth. for my Active Birthing
women. Any
Actually what
I said was antenatal visits I use my pinards. In
labour I use my dopper for all the reasons you mention!! J
Sally Westbury
Homebirth Midwife
You are a midwife, assisting at someone
else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening
rather than
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Actually I
started homebirth practice before mobile phones were common place.. I had a
pager which only worked in certain areas.. but the women always found me.
Sally Westbury
Homebirth Midwife
You are a midwife, assisting at someone
else's birth. Do good without show or fuss.
Cas,
You point is intereting. I also dont offer for women to hear the
baby. .. It is that process of allowing or teaching women to know their own
baby, for them to be the expert. I also ask the women what position the baby is
in and how the baby is.. whether
the baby has dropped etc
Hi Everyone, I thought I would introduce myself a bit
better.
I am a 21 year old SAHM and have a wonderful husband, Steven
who is 25. Together we have two little boys, Kaleb
Dear Sally
Your description of your care with women
with regard to guiding them to be aware of their babys position was
certainly part of my experience with Maggie Lecky-Thompson as my homebirth midwife, she would ask me
first and then feel my belly.
It is such a simple respectful
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinnards v's dopplar
Thats also my way of working. They come to the prenatal visits and they can tell exactly how the baby is positioned. They call me the moment that breech babys tumble around. That gives them confidence and power. I have a lot of pinnards and I give
Sally,
I am a B.Mid student and very keen to learn how to use a pinard well -
i also think they are beautiful and was wondering where/who can make
them, I would love to get a special one made with a lovely wood??
Thanks Gretta
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