Re: [ozmidwifery] intermittent auscultation

2005-07-30 Thread Ceri & Katrina
Hi listers I will check our policies at work when I am there next, but all our policies have research that is referenced to it! So I will check our monitoring policy and let you know :-) Katrina <> www.niagaraparkshow.com.au

Re: [ozmidwifery] intermittent auscultation

2005-07-30 Thread Melissa Singer
So true Sue!! - hung out to dry then burnt at the stake! - Original Message - From: "Susan Cudlipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] intermittent auscultation > This is so true. > We constantly have to justify our belief in the natu

RE: [ozmidwifery] ventouse information

2005-07-30 Thread Nicole Carver
Title: Message One of the presentations at ICM was about ventouse. There are known side effects. Minor ones include caput succanadeum which is swelling of the scalp and cephal haematoma which is bruising between the skull bone and its membrane covering. The major one was a sub apponeuretic h

RE: [ozmidwifery] ventouse information

2005-07-30 Thread Megan & Larry
Title: Message An Osteopath may have some info on it, maybe try through the association, or a local practitioner ? It is probably another of those practices (ventouse) that hasn't been looked into beyond 'saving' babies lives in the birth process. I would think its Osteos and the like that kn

Re: [ozmidwifery] ventouse information

2005-07-30 Thread Janet Fraser
Title: Message They don't have anything on how it might affect a baby. No one does. J - Original Message - From: Dean & Jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] ventouse information have you tr

RE: [ozmidwifery] ventouse information

2005-07-30 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message have you tried maternity wise? jo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet FraserSent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:16 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] ventouse information Hi all

Re: [ozmidwifery] intermittent auscultation

2005-07-30 Thread Susan Cudlipp
That would be wonderful Sally, I wish more places had that attitude.  I have attended some of our monthly morbidity meetings but midwives are not generally included. Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message

Re: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.

2005-07-30 Thread Susan Cudlipp
This thread on twin births is most interesting and insightful. I have been fortunate to atttend twin births several times over the years, but it never used to be considered the drama that it seems to be nowadays, and I think this is largely due to ill-advised interference which gives rise to pr

[ozmidwifery] ventouse information

2005-07-30 Thread Janet Fraser
Hi all, can anyone direct me to online resources on the use and risks of ventouse? I have the info from ACE but that's about it really. Best, J Joyous Birth Home Birth Forum - a world first!http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/   Accessing Artemis Birth Trauma Recoveryhttp://health.groups.yaho

Re: [ozmidwifery] intermittent auscultation

2005-07-30 Thread sally williams
Once a month, where I work, we have a Practice Improvement Committee Meeting. Here midwives and obstetricians gather to discuss the ongoing direction of our unit, (low risk, mainly midwife led). We also discuss any adverse outcomes together, no finger pointing, no laying of blame, to make sur

Re: [ozmidwifery] intermittent auscultation

2005-07-30 Thread Susan Cudlipp
This is so true. We constantly have to justify our belief in the natural process of birth and should a mishap happen in midwifery care, the midwife is all but burnt at the stake. By contrast, most hospitals have regular mortality meetings to discuss medical mishaps, these are "in house" and onl

RE: [ozmidwifery] intermittent auscultation

2005-07-30 Thread Judy Chapman
I certainly have never seen any evidence. All one gets is textbooks and protocol manuals telling you that you must but not referencing the reason. Cheers Judy --- Sally Westbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to go further with today's radical thought. > > I believe there is not e