Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-05 Thread islips
i was transitional at 2cms with my first , was fully 1 hour later !!. My second i was transitional at 5cms. Going by what the woman 'feels' emotionally seems to be more of an indication. zoe - Original Message - From: Susan Cudlipp To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au

Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Attendants in Bendigo?

2006-04-05 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Helen Sandner MIPP[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 06/04/2006, at 2:35 PM, Janet Fraser wrote:http://douladirectory.joyousbirth.info/vic.html#bendigo- Original Message -From: Kelly @ BellyBellyTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:20 PMSubject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Attendants

Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Attendants in Bendigo?

2006-04-05 Thread Janet Fraser
http://douladirectory.joyousbirth.info/vic.html#bendigo - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Attendants in Bendigo? If you can suggest anyo

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-05 Thread A & C Palmer
You are too kind, Di. I must admit that I do like seeing your name on the list and reading what you have to say. Cath -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of diane Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:17 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject:

[ozmidwifery] Birth Attendants in Bendigo?

2006-04-05 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
If you can suggest anyone please let me know. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support  

Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-05 Thread Janet Fraser
That's why a woman's behaviour (especially an unobserved, uninhibited, not frightened woman) usually tells you more about where she is at in her labour & journey than a VE.   Yes! A big YES to this!!! Now how do you get it to work in institutions with overreliance on clocks and machines? On

Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-05 Thread brendamanning
Sometimes the cervix just needs to catch up with the body. So a woman may be acting transitional & only be 3cms but birth soon after because her mind & body were ahead of her cervix. Happens quite alot really. That's why a woman's behaviour (especially an unobserved, uninhibited, not frig

Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-05 Thread suzi and brett
I hate that attitude - like your faking it or something if you're under 5 cm!, as Maxine and Melissa's stories show VE's by the midwives (not only because they were wrong) were useless in determining when the baby was coming.    Way before I was a midwife - I laboured at home for about 23 h

[ozmidwifery] birth and the weather

2006-04-05 Thread Kylie Carberry
Hi all, I am writing a story about how the weather affects our health and was quite interested when I came across a piece about a change in air pressure and more births occurring.  It jogged my memory to when I had my last child and the hospital was very busy indeed.  Between contractions I can vag

[ozmidwifery] article FYI

2006-04-05 Thread leanne wynne
A Comparison of "Hands Off" Versus "Hands On" Techniques for Decreasing Perineal Lacerations During Birth Adriana de Souza Caroci da Costa, CNM, MS; Maria Luiza Gonzalez Riesco, CNM, PhD J Midwifery Womens Health. 2006;51(2):106 -111. ©2006 Elsevier Science, Inc. Posted 03/24/2006 Abstra

Re: [ozmidwifery] My Sunrise Email

2006-04-05 Thread leanne wynne
Hi Mike and others, You are right about this sort of rigid, controlled child-rearing practices rearing it's head every so often, but it's not Christian in it's foundation anymore than David Koresh and Waco Texas was Christian in it's foundation. This sort of individual (eg Gary Ezzo) is psuedo-

Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-05 Thread Melissa Singer
Hi Sue,   I too have seen many transitional women at 3 or 4cm who birthed within in the hour!   Melissa - Original Message - From: Susan Cudlipp To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to

Re: [ozmidwifery] My Sunrise Email

2006-04-05 Thread Mike & Lindsay Kennedy
This isn't new. If rears its head regularly (often in christian circles). The resul;ts of this type of teaching boarder on abuse. rgds mike On 4/4/06, Kelly @ BellyBelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm pretty sure this one doesn't have children either. But at least she's > more professional and

Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-05 Thread Susan Cudlipp
I have long thought that transition phase has nothing to do with how many centimetres dilated a woman is, have been laughed at several times for suggesting that a woman was transitional at only 3cms, only to have a birth within 1/2 hour. I have known even very experienced midwives get VE's w

Re: [ozmidwifery] insulin dependant diabetics

2006-04-05 Thread Alan & Linda Trewern
Hi Maxine,   At Townsville Hospital, women who are insulin dependant see the lactation consultant ante-natally and if they are planning to breast feed, she discusses the option of expressing and freezing in case her baby needs it. These babies always go to the nursery for obs

Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-05 Thread diane
Hi Cath, two posts in one day!! I think that moves you out of lurker status! Your thoughts would be valuable contributions to the discussions. Cheers, Diane L. (Wyong CMP) - Original Message - From: "A & C Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:18 AM Subje

Re: [ozmidwifery] tamworth

2006-04-05 Thread diane
Thanks Katy, I did get it first time. She has first appointment at the outreach clinic tomorrow(at Tam west) but have arranged for her to see Robyn, for her next visit. She will really benefit from 1-2-1. Ta, Di - Original Message - From: Katy O'Neill To: ozmidwifery@ace