RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Dean & Jo
I supported a woman a few months back who had a SROM but no labour for a day or two. She was a birth centre mum but didn’t tell me or them abut the ROM. We went in and they said she would have to birth in labour ward now as it had been 48 hours. This wonderful gorgeous first time mum said "I wil

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread islips
iI had an induction with my second baby ( post dates and GDM ). My private obs only induces at night as he feels women labour better at this time. He did an ARM at 7.30pm and said he would see me in the morning if nothing happened. We had also negotiated a midwife delivery ( regardless of if

RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
The woman I supported Tuesday had cholestasis and was given only 2-3 hours before the pressure was too great! I am sure if she was given at least 6 hours like yourself and was not hounded that her labour would have been more established - she was progressing. But they kept sending more and more doc

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Janet Fraser
Amy your story is truly appalling and also totally normal in the system. How anyone can "refuse" your requests is disgusting! EFM does NOT save lives, it just increases c-sec rates. How about birthing with evidence based care at home if you have another baby? As Diana Korte says, if you don't want

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread diane
"I ended up switching it off myself-to her utter bewilderment." YAY! Amy, I wish more women would know enough to exercise their choice. Shame about the midwife though, process focussed rather than woman centred? "I don't know, am I an eternal cynic?" The sad fact is that this cynicism (from whi

RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread adamnamy
This is really pertinent thread for us mothers on the list...it seems an issue about which there are no clear guidelines which makes it really hard for women who are attempting to be in charge of their own labors. They don't even know what sort of time frame they will have in which to relax into

RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
They did a swab just before ARM but also said that it takes 2 days for the cultures to grow. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support -Original Message- Fro

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread diane
We swab on SROM assessment as we dont routinely swab, but unless confirmed positive wont start IVAB until 18 hrs. Confirmed GBS aren't considered to be candidates for home management. Di - Original Message - From: "Kelly @ BellyBelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2

[ozmidwifery] article FYI

2006-06-14 Thread leanne wynne
Repeat C-Sections Raise Risk of Maternal Morbidity Reuters Health Information 2006. © 2006 Reuters Ltd. NEW YORK (Reuters Health) May 31 - As the number of repeat c-sections increases, so does the risk of bowel injury, ICU admission, and other maternal complications, according to a report in t

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread sally @ home
We wait up to 96 hours. If a woman rings with ?pre-labour SROM, we ask them to attend the unit for confirmation, either by history (checking pads) or spec if it looks inconclusive. We do an abdo palp, CTG then send her home with antibiotics to be commenced 18 hours after ROM. We ask to atten

RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
Oh mum didn't have strep b swap done (they forgot to do it) so they wanted her to be on ab's too as policy assumed she was positive. She ended up saying no after they sent in a barrage of people trying to tell her to have ab's. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutio

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread diane
We sometimes have some confusion over whether the women should have oral AB's cover if they are on home management of SROM. The policy doesnt call for it, but some doctor's recommend this. When in established labour and membranes are broken for more than 18hrs, then IV AB's are used. I guess t

RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
Interesting you mention that bit about PPH Brenda, they estimated a 600ml loss but had to do horrifically painful things to her after the birth as she was trickling and they finally found a few small pea-sized (from memory) clots on the cervix, which they said would keep bleeding if they didn't get

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread brendamanning
"The UK's NICE guidelines inherited from the UK's Royal College of Obs and Gynea suggest that it is fine to leave pre-labour rupture of membranes up to 96 hours before induction of labour - " This is the policy at Rosebud. If doing ARM for IOL then waiting 4 hours is common & reducing the synto o

RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
Heheheh J I was actually quite surprised that for the very first time, at this last birth at the Mercy in Melbourne, they did turn down the drip when asked – mum coped so much better and the word epidural wasn’t yelled out again after that! They started it at 40 (that was a very ‘mini’ dose

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread diane
Hi Kelly, I think most places differentiate between spontaneous release of the waters or artificial rupture, in regards to potential for infection and other issues. Our area policy is after SROM they can do home management after initial confirmation of SROM by speculum exam and amnicator and

RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
How frustrating then, that of the births I have been to, when there has been an ARM to induce labour, mum gets pressure for the drip after an hour, then they keep coming back in at periodic intervals of 30mins-1hr with more pressure for synto! It’s a fight to keep them away! So would it be

RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Debbie Slater
The UK’s NICE guidelines inherited from the UK’s Royal College of Obs and Gynea suggest that it is fine to leave pre-labour rupture of membranes up to 96 hours before induction of labour – see http://www.nice.org.uk/page.aspx?o=17381     Debbie Slater Perth, WA From: owner-

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Briege Lagan
Kelly In the maternity unit I worked in Northern Ireland we tend to leave women at term who had spontaneous rupture of members up to 48 hours to see if they go into labour before intervening   Women who have their members artifically ruptured as part of the induction of labour procedure tend to

Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Susan Cudlipp
They like to have a baby within 24 hours of # membranes so will augment with synto within 12 hours usually, although a lot depends upon the time of day and acuity i.e. reluctant to start synto at night due to smallish unit and lack of on site theatre staff/anaesthetists etc at night. Also if

[ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
For those who work in maternity units, I am just wondering what the policy is in your unit in regards to how long a woman can continue after her waters have broken before having synto put up? There seems to be such pressure to put it up fairly quickly (after you ask to at least wait at all!