RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-31 Thread Lindsay Kennedy
:46 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears   Hi Lindsay, At what gestation did the u/sound miss your twins pregnancy? Anyone else have a similar story? Sue I had ultrasounds on the day of birth of my last two babies, I was overdue both times and had

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-31 Thread Janet Fraser
: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears Hi Lindsay,At what gestation did the u/sound miss your twins pregnancy?Anyone else have a similar story?Sue I had ultrasounds on the day of birth of my last two

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-31 Thread Sue Cookson
Hi Lindsay, At what gestation did the u/sound miss your twins pregnancy? Anyone else have a similar story? Sue I had ultrasounds on the day of birth of my last two babies, I was overdue both times and had to see Obstetrician.  These were my 4th and 5th children.  Number 4 he

RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-30 Thread jo
aghan Moon Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2005 6:18 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears Funny you should ask that right now. We have two mum's in care with previous 4th degree tears. ( One of these happened a couple of years ago while under my care - as p

RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-30 Thread Lindsay Kennedy
@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears   No experience of vaginal birth following 4th degree tear (thankfully!).  But I personally had an ultrasound at 37 weeks last pregnancy (at a specialist women’s ultrasound clinic) and the estimate of bub’s weight was actually spot

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-30 Thread Meaghan Moon
idea for a gestimate on the weight? I know they can be so inaccurate. Kiwi Kim, ---Original Message--- From: <mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 29/08/2005 11:10:23 a.m. To: <mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>ozmidwifery@acegra

RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-30 Thread Jo Bourne
ED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Stead >Sent: Tuesday, 30 August 2005 9:19 AM >To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears > >Out of curiosity.. does anyone have any experiences of vaginal birth >following previous 4th degr

RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-30 Thread Julia Vaughan
: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears   Out of curiosity.. does anyone have any experiences of vaginal birth following previous 4th degree tear?  I've just recently met a woman who wants to give vaginal birth a go - has new partner (says old

Re: [ozmidwifery]3rd degree tears, u/s and birthweight

2005-08-29 Thread Kim Stead
r thoughts.    ---Original Message---   From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 30/08/2005 2:42:32 p.m. To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]3rd degree tears, u/s and birthweight   On a personal note I had 3 ultrasounds at 35 weeks for various reasons I won't bore you wi

Re: [ozmidwifery]3rd degree tears, u/s and birthweight

2005-08-29 Thread Maxine Wilson
om.au Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears Out of curiosity.. does anyone have any experiences of vaginal birth following previous 4th degree tear?  I've just recently met a woman who wan

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-29 Thread Kim Stead
ate.   Kiwi Kim,   ---Original Message---   From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 29/08/2005 11:10:23 a.m. To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears  Hi,I've just returned from a clinical placement in SA where I spent a mindblowing three hours in an incon

RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-29 Thread Ken WArd
What is this woman on about?  Is she talking about post vaginal wall tears?  I think they are more likely to cause long term problems. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Sue CooksonSent: Monday, 29 August 2005 6:53 PMTo: ozm

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-29 Thread Anne Clarke
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears Hi again,I also forgot to add that the nurse practitioner also stated that an episiotomy rate of 10-15% for birth was justified and there was only 'soft evidence' for promoting tears over ep

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-29 Thread Sue Cookson
Hi again, I also forgot to add that the nurse practitioner also stated that an episiotomy rate of 10-15% for birth was justified and there was only 'soft evidence' for promoting tears over episiotomies. I do fully intend to follow this with a research search. For those of you who have commented

RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-29 Thread Ken WArd
ED]On Behalf Of brendamanningSent: Monday, 29 August 2005 2:41 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears Hi Sue,   Take a big,deep breath, and anothernow.think: who stands to gain most from this data &

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-28 Thread Sonja
: Sue Cookson To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears Hi,I've just returned from a clinical placement in SA where I spent a mindblowing three hours in an incontinence clinic in an outpatients

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-28 Thread Janet Fraser
Sue this stuff really scares me. I don't know what business a nurse in an incontinence clinic has recommending major abdominal surgery, with it's attendant risks which are far greater than vaginal birth. If I were the nurse, I'd be saying, "Have you thought about having a home birth? Those w

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-28 Thread brendamanning
Julia Vaughan To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears Yes Sue, that is scary stuff indeed.  Makes me think that manufacturers of incontinence products will be delighted.  Those statistics are app

RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-28 Thread Julia Vaughan
: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears   Hi, I've just returned from a clinical placement in SA where I spent a mindblowing three hours in an incontinence clinic in an outpatients unit at a major hospital. The mindblowing element was the following statistics (copied fro

[ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-08-28 Thread Sue Cookson
Hi, I've just returned from a clinical placement in SA where I spent a mindblowing three hours in an incontinence clinic in an outpatients unit at a major hospital. The mindblowing element was the following statistics (copied from one of the handouts): 39-49% women tear or have an episiotomy

[ozmidwifery] 3rd degree tears

2005-07-27 Thread Ceri & Katrina
Hi Listers while we are on the subject of guidelines research etc, what are policies etc when dealing with woman having had 3rd tear? Do they routinely get aperients? What about ovestin cream? and follow-up appointments? I would be interested to hear other places protocols thanks katrina