Re: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-15 Thread Andrea Robertson
--- Original Message From: Sue Cookson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, 15 November, 2006 8:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage Hi Andrea, I am not aware of the practice you have mentioned in America. Have you an

Re: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-15 Thread Michelle Windsor
day, 15 November, 2006 8:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage Hi Andrea, I am not aware of the practice you have mentioned in America. Have you any references for this? Any idea what occurs if the placenta takes longer to arrive than the 20 minutes or so??

Re: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-14 Thread Sue Cookson
Hi Andrea, I am not aware of the practice you have mentioned in America. Have you any references for this? Any idea what occurs if the placenta takes longer to arrive than the 20 minutes or so?? Sue Hello Sue, The question of third stage management has a cultural aspect as well. In the US,

RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-14 Thread Tania Smallwood
Just going from a very faded memory from my Mid education, but wasn’t it the Hinchinbrook trial that outlined the dangers of mixing the two practices?  I know it was seen as a flawed and dated trial, with dubious parameters of ‘normal’ and of what ‘physiological’ actually meant, but if some

RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-14 Thread Isis Caple
ifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage Sue, You really need to decide whether your patient wishes for an active or a physiological third stage. It can be dangerous to try and do a "half-half" sort of third stage. If you plan a physiological third stag

Re: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-13 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Where I work when I am not being a MIPP we leave the cord until it has stopped pulsating, or the mother asks for it to be cut and then we give the synt after it has been clamped. Our PPH rate is not noticeably higher Put it this way we have the usual conservative GPs and they do not object

RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-13 Thread LJG
November 2006 3:12 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage I should add that a physiological third stage is the natural progression from a normal labour. However if the woman has had a labour influenced by IOL, augmentation and directed

RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-13 Thread leanne wynne
Service Mob 0418 371862 From: "leanne wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:27:11 +1100 Sue, You really need to decide whe

RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-13 Thread LJG
matter of time (I hope) before we'll be delaying the synto and the cord clamping because of the "dangers" Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Cookson Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 10:00 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegra

RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-13 Thread leanne wynne
ocess! All the best, Leanne. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of "Women's Business" Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 From: Sue Cookson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery]

Re: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-13 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hello Sue, The question of third stage management has a cultural aspect as well. In the US, as far as I know, the syntometrine is not given until after the placenta arrives. It is then given to prevent excessive bleeding. Interesting to speculate on how this major difference developed, and

[ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage

2006-11-13 Thread Sue Cookson
Hi, I'm interested if there is any research on delaying synto for say up to 5 minutes in 'active 3rd stage'. Have been doing actively managed third stage throughout my clinical placements as a student (nearly finished!!) with some practitioners cutting the cord immediately, and most at about 10