I am extraordinarily disappointed that for some women the devotion to the care and wellbeing of women extends only to those who 'fit'. I accept any woman's right to belief in how to manage their own lifestyle and the choices therein, therefore I think it is absolutely okay to disagree with abortions. However using language of violence (belonging usually to the domain of men) to propagate a viewpoint through its emotive intent is narrow-minded, shortsighted and I feel illustrates the simplistic social viewpoint of women and the framework that enables the judgement of their supposed choices. There is no room in this for compassion or humanity. As the saying goes you have to walk a mile in a persons shoes before you should deem to understand therefore judge them. It is (disappointedly) interesting that violent language is the very nature of the obstetric reasons for intervening in birth i.e. forceps to stop the baby being battered against the rigid wall of the perineum, uncontrolled mutilating tears as a reason to cut a woman's vagina and perineum, etc etc. There is no way in my mind that it is women centered or woman focused to describe the complexity of the choices; reasons and emotions around abortion in such simplistic demeaning and judgmental ways. Vegetarianism and abortion, I find that incredibly ridiculous! Is it better to go back to forcing women who still have little sexual autonomy in todays society to birth children that for what ever reason are not 'wanted' or whom will place a particular burden on the woman. We can always say yes but I would do ..., hwoever it is not you or me, it is no ones place to make such chocies and live with those choices but the woman herslef. Violence is perpetrated against women and children all over the world, lets not equate abortion in this, lets make the world a better place for women and children to be born into and to live. Like anything in life there are no easy answers "This is a complicated and muddled world where unplanned pregnancues may be wanted, where wanted children may emerge from unwnated pregnancues, where the offspring of wanted pregnancies may be rejected, where infatuation with infants grows cold and where children may be wanted soley to meet their parents pathological needs." Juliet Cheetham 1977
I think if we can sit back and say the world is good, women are truly able to make choices that do not stem from the social and cultural contexts' of oppression; sexual and generded inequality and expolitation, patricahial interest etc etc then maybe we can sit in judgement of drug addicts, and choices such as abortion, until then vioence is perpetrated through language and judegment. Unfortunatly it is, as it seems always, women who bear the brunt, blame and gulit of peoples belief that they know better and sit in judgement. I have had to make hard choices in my career - do I really want to be with womEn or not. It means I often have to leave my own sense of morality and values where they belong in my private domain, this does not mean that I am compromised, it does mean I can help far more women and maybe leave a little of me with them... For anyone who knows me knows I love quotes so I will finish here with a couple... your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your undserstanding. Kahil Gibran men are disturbed not by things that happen but by their opinion of the things that happen Epictetus Before enlightenment chopping wood carrying water After enlightenment chopping wood carrying water Zen Proverb Belinda -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.