Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-10 Thread Gloria Lemay
ics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" I hear you, Helen! I know a woman who dilated fully in 4 hours (yes, 4!) then had a rest and be thankful stage of an hour during whi

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Dean & Jo
lf Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:36 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" If anyone has been to captain cooks cottage in Melbourne which was his childhood home that was transported from e

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Andrea Quanchi
of using the common algorithm for Naegele's rule. Vedrana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wump fish Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of &

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Janet Fraser
- Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" Rachel, I only he

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Helen and Graham
om.au Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" Rachel, I only hear this from health professionals. I don't hear it from women, not even the most mainstream hospy birthing mamas with

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Vedrana Valčić
seven days), not on empirical data. http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/961107/pregnancy.shtml Vedrana -Original Message- From: Vedrana Valčić Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:13 PM To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "acti

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Vedrana Valčić
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wump fish Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" Perhaps we need to get away from due dates al

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread wump fish
the date comes and goes. Doesn't matter how much we tell them the 38-42wk thing - they are aiming for that 40wk due date. From: "Janet Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "acti

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Janet Fraser
- From: "Dean & Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" > The issue faced by women when they go post dates

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Dean & Jo
The issue faced by women when they go post dates has a huge impact on things. I wonder if women were to celebrate and cherish the last few days of being pregnant instead of feeling 'fed up' - if women did not hear from anyone (and usually everyone) the comment of "are you still here love?" or the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-01-31 Thread wump fish
Haven't had an opportunity to discuss induction with women in Australia - this seems to be a drs job here. Rachel From: "Janet Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labou

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-01-31 Thread Ken WArd
2006 1:26 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" Rachel, I only hear this from health professionals. I don't hear it from women, not even the most mainstream hospy birthing mamas with whom I deal. I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-01-31 Thread Janet Fraser
Rachel, I only hear this from health professionals. I don't hear it from women, not even the most mainstream hospy birthing mamas with whom I deal. It's a very small percentage of women who embrace this technology, and an even smaller number who knowingly embrace it. If you read mainstream b

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-01-31 Thread wump fish
sed info (ha ha). Rachel From: Tracy Niall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:48:58 -0800 (PST) Hello from Dublin Ireland T

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-01-31 Thread Janet Fraser
ect: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" > Hello from Dublin Ireland > > The hospital in Dublin (National Maternity Hospital) > where AML originated now has a section rate of about > 17% which is actually fairly low for Ireland - most > hospital

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-01-31 Thread Tracy Niall
Hello from Dublin Ireland The hospital in Dublin (National Maternity Hospital) where AML originated now has a section rate of about 17% which is actually fairly low for Ireland - most hospitals are running around 20 - 25%. Every day women are still lining up to have their membranes ruptured and t

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-01-31 Thread Birth Centre-MBH
And apparently everyone was impressed with Dublin's low caesarean rate with active management (about 5% by memory).. pity that no one ever noticed that their caesarean rate was lower before active management was introduced.  One thing that the Irish did have at this time (from what I've r

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-01-31 Thread Belinda
it stemmed from Ireland and was based on length of labour as a throughput thing rather than anything to do with cerebral palsy. The belief was that women would rather a quicker labour with intervention rather than a long labour with no intervention, it also stemmed from arbitrary ideas of "norm