Re: [P2P-F] new interview, thanks for diffusing in your networks

2021-03-09 Thread Anna Harris
Hi Michel, In recent months I’m hearing a very different message coming from US. This video is typical and turns upside down many of the values I’ve grown up with. Do you have a response? https://youtu.be/R0EfaSv27gI Warm regards, Anna > On 9 Mar 2021, at 11:44, Michel Bauwens wr

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: FoP RoP - the landscape of the heart-mind in activist practice

2019-01-07 Thread Anna Harris
Unfortunately unreadable on a mini IPad. > On 7 Jan 2019, at 08:37, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > > > -- Forwarded message - > From: mike hales > Date: Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 6:21 PM > Subject: FoP RoP - the landscape of the heart-mind in activist practice > To: mh home > > > Dea

Re: [P2P-F] Leaving Facebook for a indeterminate time

2018-08-18 Thread Anna Harris
Seconded! > On 18 Aug 2018, at 08:04, George Pór > wrote: > > Michel, > > Your service is too precious to the community. Why don't you just leave the > extremists alone and continue with your valuable postings that I frequently > share to other groups? > > your friend, george > > George P

Re: [P2P-F] the common vs the commons

2018-07-24 Thread Anna Harris
Which book? > On 23 Jul 2018, at 22:30, Kevin Flanagan wrote: > > Nice to read and so clearly articulated. Strange I can't find the book > online? Has anyone sourced a copy? > >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:59 AM, Michel Bauwens >> wrote: >> Dear friends, >> >> I started my journey to the com

Re: [P2P-F] the common vs the commons

2018-07-23 Thread Anna Harris
https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Common_as_a_Mode_of_Production What a beautiful article, clear, simple non academic language. Inspiring a future to which we are all contributing, where the Common, combining economic and social reproduction, becomes the dominant mode, but cohabits with the public

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: From Rajani: On Alienation: : A Non-Eurocentric View

2018-07-11 Thread Anna Harris
quot;paradigm of masculinity" and a "paradigm of femininity", respectively, correlated to violence and nurturance, that are basically instinctual in nature despite their cultural variation". Anna > On 11 Jul 2018, at 03:27, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > > -

Re: [P2P-F] Participatory Government

2018-06-20 Thread Anna Harris
It was sent on the list. I received it! Anna > On 20 Jun 2018, at 11:09, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > Dear Steve, > > I haven't seen it but do not moderate the list and am not sure if anyone does > after the departure of James Burke, I copy the list, and put our tech >

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: FROM RAJANI: INTERVIEW WITH DR. AMIT GOSWAMI, QUANTUM PHYSICIST

2018-03-19 Thread Anna Harris
Thank you Rajani, and Michel for this introduction to Dr Amit Goswami. Very interesting. Anna > On 17 Mar 2018, at 09:33, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: r kanth > Date: Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 2:13 AM > Subject: Fwd: FROM RAJA

Re: [P2P-F] Postcapitalism, Basic Income and the End of Work: A Critique and Alternative

2017-11-22 Thread Anna Harris
a society that works for all. Both of these points could have been made without attempting to debunk UBI, and it's having many supporters of different colours (as if that is a criticism) Anna On 21 Nov 2017, at 19:07, Theodoros Karyotis wrote: > A critique of the plan for a Basic Inco

Re: [P2P-F] commons and households

2017-10-16 Thread Anna Harris
o address the fundamental reality of alienation, and objectification of people and nature in our current economy. Anna > On 15 Oct 2017, at 21:38, Kevin Carson > wrote: > > But besides being multi-generational, a household can incorporate > multiple families -- approaching p

Re: [P2P-F] commons and households

2017-10-15 Thread Anna Harris
points out, to the smallest possible unit, because it challenges the very nature of the economy based on scarcity and objectifying people and nature, and which the Commons needs to acknowledge as the ultimate basis of any wholesome relationship. Anna > On 15 Oct 2017, at 07:16, Roberto Verzo

Re: [P2P-F] What do I Know?

2017-07-25 Thread Anna Harris
needed, which reinstates hierarchy, and we are back to square one. Anna > On 24 Jul 2017, at 15:45, Anna Harris wrote: > > Dear Michel, > > We have had this discussion before, and you have failed to convince me. My > reading seems to have taken me in the opposite directio

Re: [P2P-F] What do I Know?

2017-07-24 Thread Anna Harris
mtime as their greatest "possessions." • Language whose richness of structure and vocabulary reveals new worlds of perception and comprehension. • A people balanced between the Dreaming and the perceivable world, in harmony with all species and living each day as the First Day.'

Re: [P2P-F] What do I Know?

2017-07-24 Thread Anna Harris
rers lived harmoniously without need for interfighting. See my article : http://sublimemagazine.com/healthy-birth-healthy-earth Anna > On 24 Jul 2017, at 10:10, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > Thanks for this reaction Anna, > > I agree about agression and nurturing to be polarities in each of

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: What do I Know?

2017-07-24 Thread Anna Harris
e to be one or the other.) Nevertheless the basic categories are being questioned and fatally blurred, so that being yourself is what really matters. This is a really positive step towards your kin based affective society, where kin is seen as including all beings. Anna > On 24 Jul 2017

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Civicist's First Post: The New Deal

2016-12-13 Thread Anna Harris
in journalism. Kudos Craig! Anna > On 13 Dec 2016, at 16:33, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > This is civic tech: Craig Newmark, founder of craigslist and a longtime > friend (and benefactor) of Civic Hall, has donated $1 million to Poynter to > fund a five-year chair in journalism et

[P2P-F] Can you hear us?

2016-12-06 Thread Anna Harris
Iceland crowd sources a new constitution 'Constitutionalising does not stop after a certain point, but ought to continue as a fundamental part of social and political activity.' https://theconversation.com/icelands-crowd-sourced-constitution-hope-for-disillusioned-voters-everywhere-67803 http:/

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Trump's Victory - Mourning and Analysis

2016-11-10 Thread Anna Harris
aks loose. At least among 'progressives'. Anna > On 10 Nov 2016, at 08:02, Denis Postle wrote: > > Yes, and... > “If it is a sudden change in status to a once dominant group that drives > electorates to the far right, as political scientist Roger Petersen has > argued – then

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] our p2p/commons contribution to Journey to Earthland (GTN Discussion) (Michel Bauwens)

2016-11-07 Thread Anna Harris
ain themes, and they thought both issues > were intimately related and inseparable. > >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Anna Harris wrote: >> Military spending is notoriously difficult to observe accurately. However >> manufactured arms is a better assessment than official def

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] our p2p/commons contribution to Journey to Earthland (GTN Discussion) (Michel Bauwens)

2016-11-07 Thread Anna Harris
ill not be able to shift the power play which dominates all our lives. Anna > On 6 Nov 2016, at 13:07, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > dear Anna, > > I fully agree with your perspective and conclusions here, and that we must > learn from the good practices of societies before our

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] our p2p/commons contribution to Journey to Earthland (GTN Discussion) (Michel Bauwens)

2016-11-06 Thread Anna Harris
relate > to contemporary indigenous communities, deeply affected by consumer > fetishism, equipped with cellphones, and taking action on their own behalves > in manners that require (self-)reflection. > > P > >> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Michel Bauwens >> wrot

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Into the digital void? – International Socialism

2016-10-19 Thread Anna Harris
things teach us: to fall, patiently trusting our heaviness. Even a bird has to do that before he can fly. From Book of the Hours by Raine Maria Rilke. Anna > On 19 Oct 2016, at 18:22, Örsan Şenalp wrote: > > Anna yes. indeed this aspect is very crucial too. and I would agree > with you in

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Into the digital void? – International Socialism

2016-10-19 Thread Anna Harris
Orsan, I think what you are saying here links with the question Bob raised about agroecology on small scale farms, as the answer to corporate industrial agriculture. What is the difference and why is it so important? It is clear that on small scale farms there is a possibility, even a tendency,

[P2P-F] Digital democracy

2016-08-31 Thread Anna Harris
Letter in reply to http://realdemocracymovement.org/the-power-and-the-potential-of-the-social-movement-behind-corbyn/ Gerry Gold| 30th August 2016 at 10:20 amLog in to Reply Today, Jeremy Corbyn launched his digital democracy manifesto. It will not only democratise the internet but use digital

[P2P-F] The social movement behind Corbyn

2016-08-29 Thread Anna Harris
http://realdemocracymovement.org/the-power-and-the-potential-of-the-social-movement-behind-corbyn/ 'The cause of this lies deeper still, in the subjugation of democracy by the corporations and the financial institutions. Sovereignty lies not with Parliament but with extra-parliamentary forces

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] a short response to queries about the p2p'f workings in WSF

2016-08-16 Thread Anna Harris
here money is not involved? Is there any money which is not tainted? I would guess there is always some ego involved, so what? Maybe you feel wronged in some way. Maybe you have a genuine grievance. Your resentment is your own problem, you do not help your cause by trying to get others to apologi

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Partnership v dominator

2016-08-14 Thread Anna Harris
Another take on the same theme from Ina Praetorius, 'From Equality to Reconstructing the World'. http://www.inapraetorius.ch/index-en.php http://www.pelicanweb.org/solisustv06n11page2inapraetorius.html This paper is a reflection on modern economic theory and practices. Key points for considera

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Reformist or radical

2016-08-14 Thread Anna Harris
It is useful to point out that not all so called 'partnerships' have the same ideals as Eisler's partnership model. But not sure what you are referring to, Orsan, when you say "imposed gender discourse"?? Anna > On 14 Aug 2016, at 15:44, Orsan wrote: > > &

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] The class structure of the "solidarity economy" or any alternative community

2016-08-13 Thread Anna Harris
inal attachment parenting style, and my first > two in the european 'new age re-invention of attachment parenting' style > ... in reaction to my own nearly opposite experience > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Anna Harris wrote: > >> Yes I didn't mean to

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] The class structure of the "solidarity economy" or any alternative community

2016-08-13 Thread Anna Harris
Yes I didn't mean to imply a dichotomy between west and others, just that west child rearing culture is only one I'm familiar with. On Aug 14, 2016 4:41 AM, "Michel Bauwens" wrote: > Dear Anna, > > are you familiar with the works of Wilhelm Reich at all .. some &g

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] The class structure of the "solidarity economy" or any alternative community

2016-08-13 Thread Anna Harris
x27;natural' tendency towards aggression and insecurity in our culture. Narvaez makes it clear that this needs to be a community effort, it cannot be done alone. See the 20 presenters at the upcoming conference at Findhorn, Healthy Birth, Healthy Earth. https://hbhe.co/presenters/ Anna

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] a list of supporters of the UBI

2016-08-12 Thread Anna Harris
Where is the article to which Michel is referring please? > On 12 Aug 2016, at 17:46, Bob Haugen wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Michel Bauwens > wrote: >> the rest of the article is stimulating, > > As was this discussion. And Daniel, I did not find most of it boring, > although

[P2P-F] Automation

2016-08-12 Thread Anna Harris
Interesting article by Dmytri Kleiner "it’s not the unskilled, menial jobs Capitalism automates, but usually the skilled ones." CAPITAL DOESN’T AUTOMATE, IT ENTANGLES. During Nick Dyer-Witheford’s presentation at #PlatPol11 the issue of Capital replacing Labour in production entered the conver

Re: [P2P-F] Reformist or radical

2016-08-09 Thread Anna Harris
rough our personal and collective history, pointing towards a more 'human', ie more loving lifestyle. On Aug 8, 2016 5:11 AM, "Roberto Verzola" wrote: > Dear Anna, > > I'm glad it was useful. I'm currently engaged in work that will explore > the pote

Re: [P2P-F] Reformist or radical

2016-08-07 Thread Anna Harris
he evolution towards something more human needs to include caring feelings which Rifkin attempted in his The Empathic Civilisation. Thanks again Anna On Aug 7, 2016 5:33 AM, "Roberto Verzola" wrote: > In my opinion "reformism" and gradualism are two entirely different >

Re: [P2P-F] very important treatment of the conditions of success for a post-capitalist transition

2016-08-05 Thread Anna Harris
tar. I personally find Rifkin easy and stimulating to read, with a simple clarity that is hard to beat. This thesis only muddies the water by trying to fit him in to other theoretical structures, which as far as I can see, do not add anything to simple clarity of his original thesis. Anna >

[P2P-F] Local food boost

2016-08-05 Thread Anna Harris
The EU wants to block Romania's 51% local food shift. Who cares? New law passed unanimously by Romania's parliament that all supermarkets have to provide 51% .local food. https://transitionnetwork.org/blogs/rob-hopkins/2016-07/eu-wants-block-romanias-51-local-food-shift-who-cares __

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] An Open Letter to the Fabian Society (was: Re: New models of leadership)

2016-08-04 Thread Anna Harris
eve that is what motivates his >> opposition, I find that a reductionist interpretation, >> >> neither would I explain the non-binary approaches from the opposite >> reasoning, i.e. that these views are held because of a relative independence >> to the marketplace >

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] An Open Letter to the Fabian Society (was: Re: New models of leadership)

2016-08-03 Thread Anna Harris
place. This is the inevitable concomitant of a capitalist economy > which requires people to have something of value which they can sell to earn > a living - labour, intellect, care, etc. Anna > On 3 Aug 2016, at 21:31, Bob Haugen wrote: > > One of your comments resonate

[P2P-F] Agroecology

2016-08-03 Thread Anna Harris
This recent article. https://chssachetan.wordpress.com/2016/08/01/four-comments-on-indias-green-revolution-as-the-focus-shifts-to-africa/ cites this one below, which though from over 3 years ago, is well worth reading https://oecotextiles.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/food-mythbusters-do-we-really

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] New models of leadership

2016-08-02 Thread Anna Harris
So what does that say about the two 'economics experts'? > On 2 Aug 2016, at 08:21, Pat Conaty wrote: > > Anna > > I hear you but and collective responsibility is key and in his style he is > miles away from the presidential diktats of a Blair. All to the good for

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] New models of leadership

2016-08-01 Thread Anna Harris
hope is to surround him with supporters like Madron who could really help him go in the direction he wants to go, but probably doesn't have much idea how to make it happen. Anna > On 1 Aug 2016, at 17:52, Pat Conaty wrote: > > Hi Anna > > Michel and I are discussing these m

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] New models of leadership

2016-08-01 Thread Anna Harris
Thanks for these links Pat, and any others you think would be helpful. Anna > On 1 Aug 2016, at 17:32, Pat Conaty wrote: > > Michel > > Not sure about the internal politics within the team. A number left in the > team are good experts. > > But my point is that sev

[P2P-F] New models of leadership

2016-08-01 Thread Anna Harris
The Corbyn Model of Leadership Of all the people currently in leadership positions in a major political party anywhere in the world, Jeremy Corbyn is the only one who shows the potential of being a leader who could begin to manage successfully the complex problems that all of our societies have

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: Your video-interview - Conference "Shaping the new world of work"

2016-07-08 Thread Anna Harris
Thank you for this, as usual very clear and concise. Anna > On 8 Jul 2016, at 04:34, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > > the following was taped (one minute) during my intervention at the European > Trade Union Congress on 29/6 > > > Dear Mr. Bauwens, > > >

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] questions re funding of p2p value conference

2016-07-06 Thread Anna Harris
become as aware as possible of how defensive we might feel, when called to account for exploiting publicity to our own advantage. Anna > On 5 Jul 2016, at 18:26, Orsan Senalp wrote: > > > I am uncomfortable, especially I really like you in person but also > theoretician; I

[P2P-F] Uncovering the Labour Coup

2016-06-30 Thread Anna Harris
Detailed reporting of the names and connections behind the attempt to oust Corbyn! http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/28/truth-behind-labour-coup-really-began-manufactured-exclusive/ ___ P2P Foundation - Mailing list Blog - http://www.blog.p2pfoundation.n

[P2P-F] Fwd: The War on Weed Is Winding Down, But Will Monsanto/Bayer Be the Winner?

2016-06-25 Thread Anna Harris
> From: Ellen Brown > Date: 25 June 2016 at 18:02:55 BST > To: > Subject: The War on Weed Is Winding Down, But Will Monsanto/Bayer Be the > Winner? > Reply-To: Ellen Brown > > Hi, here is my latest article, posted on Global Research -- > The War on Weed Is Winding Down, > But Will Monsanto

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] [commoning] A note on the post-capitalist strategy of the P2P Foundation

2016-06-18 Thread Anna Harris
s to new practices.' > He comes from the same mindset. It is that mindset which needs to change to prefigure the new sustainable culture to which we aspire. Anna On 17 Jun 2016, at 23:08, Michel Bauwens wrote: > except you cannot ever institute a basic unconditional income outside of

[P2P-F] Hunting, Adaptive Reuse

2016-06-18 Thread Anna Harris
he Methodist church. Our volunteers generally agree that though there is not a huge need- we don't have queues of homeless and hungry - we really enjoy working together. And while it in no way challenges the system, probably helps prop it up, maybe we are prefiguring the breakdown of existing s

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] [commoning] A note on the post-capitalist strategy of the P2P Foundation

2016-06-16 Thread Anna Harris
. Anna > On 17 Jun 2016, at 02:25, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > I agree Ellen that this is also a very important third aspect, but also > requires major political and social power to achieve it. The present land and > water commons are declining rather than becoming stronger. >

[P2P-F] Understanding the origins of Human Morality

2016-04-17 Thread Anna Harris
the family, generally regarded as having little significance beyond the individual's psychopathology, with the inhumanity and destructiveness of our culture. http://www.opednews.com/Podcast/Darcia-Narvaez-Morality-s-by-Rob-Kall-Babies_Bottom-up_Bottom-up-Top-Down_Brain-160415

[P2P-F] Tata steel a taste of things to come?

2016-04-15 Thread Anna Harris
http://www.aworldtowin.net/blog/steels-collapse-is-the-crisis-of-the-capitalist-system-itself.html ___ P2P Foundation - Mailing list Blog - http://www.blog.p2pfoundation.net Wiki - http://www.p2pfoundation.net Show some love and help us maintain and up

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: Looking the Basic Income Gift Horse in the Mouth

2016-04-05 Thread Anna Harris
resources. Anna > On 4 Apr 2016, at 07:43, peter waterman wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Sid Shniad > Date: Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:31 AM > Subject: Looking the Basic Income Gift Horse in the Mouth > To: > > > http://www.socialistpr

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] [chinaconcern] FW: A New Quarterly on Chinese Labour, Civil Society, and Rights - ISSUE 1 - peterwaterman1...@gmail.com - Gmail

2016-04-05 Thread Anna Harris
I can't open it Peter. It just goes to Google mail. Just a comment about how the funding is used: I wanted to look at the magazine to see whether it gave a fair picture. Now that is obviously a judgement call on my part, particularly as a I know very little about what goes on in China, except w

[P2P-F] John Pilger in Marshall Islands, on the brink of war

2016-03-25 Thread Anna Harris
http://johnpilger.com/articles/a-world-war-has-begun-break-the-silence- ___ P2P Foundation - Mailing list Blog - http://www.blog.p2pfoundation.net Wiki - http://www.p2pfoundation.net Show some love and help us maintain and update our knowledge commons

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] [commoning] Global Marshall Plan and the Global Commons Rising: Who will be hacking who towards, at, around and beyond Montreal (or beyond the WSF in general)

2016-03-06 Thread Anna Harris
ve reproach, and all money is dirty money. So you will always find material for your rage. But emphasising these divisions will not build the bottom up emancipatory movement you are longing for. We need to find ways of connecting with people, to find our common humanity which lies beyond th

Re: [P2P-F] Micro and nano-tribunes and power generators

2016-01-08 Thread Anna Harris
Brilliant Orsan, every time we flush the loo, or clean our teeth, we produce electricity! On Jan 9, 2016 1:48 AM, "Orsan" wrote: > > The title got me think of real micro- or nano-turbine technologies being > developed to produce electricity. For instance, if used inside water pipes > and ways, s

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: " emotion as a resource akin to guns and money " in Post-Cold War Interventions and Conflicts

2016-01-02 Thread Anna Harris
"we may better understand the patterns, forms, and escalation of violence and thus why interventions often fail even despite a heavy foreign presence. " Perhaps it should read "often fail because of a heavy foreign presence" Anna > On 2 Jan 2016, at 09:16, Michel Bauw

[P2P-F] Fwd: Terrorism: Impossible odds raise serious questions

2015-12-13 Thread Anna Harris
> In reporting on many major mass murder and terrorist events in the US and > Europe in the last 15 years, including the recent Paris massacre and killings > in San Bernardino, CA, respected media sources have revealed that by > "coincidence" a drill was being held the same day and in the same

[P2P-F] Two interesting articles from Real-World Economics

2015-12-11 Thread Anna Harris
Two interesting articles from Real-World Economics real-world economics review, issue no. 73 Mass migration and border policy Herman Daly [University of Maryland, USA] http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue73/Daly73.pdf Paul Mason’s PostCapitalism Donald Gillies http://www.paeco

[P2P-F] Fwd: 16th BIEN Congress (2016) - Call for papers

2015-12-05 Thread Anna Harris
-- Forwarded message -- From: "BIEN" Date: Dec 4, 2015 9:49 PM Subject: 16th BIEN Congress (2016) - Call for papers To: Cc: 16th BIEN Congress, Seoul 2016 View this email in your browser 1

[P2P-F] Fwd: [climate trade union] Corbyn and Klein speaking in Paris

2015-11-23 Thread Anna Harris
Begin forwarded message: > From: Jonathan > Date: 23 November 2015 at 14:58:17 GMT > To: ccctu ccctu > Subject: [climate trade union] Corbyn and Klein speaking in Paris > Reply-To: findjonat...@hotmail.com > > > Jeremy Corbyn and Naomi Klein will be speaking in Paris on Monday 7 December

[P2P-F] Braungart on Circular Economy

2015-11-22 Thread Anna Harris
ic chemicals in everyday products. "Can I burn it in my fireplace, put it in my compost, or will you take it back?" No waste, everything a nutrient Anna ___ P2P Foundation - Mailing list Blog - http://www.blog.p2pfoundation.net Wiki - http://www.p2p

[P2P-F] Fwd: Inventing the Future

2015-11-09 Thread Anna Harris
Jakob received the e-book. So I can send to anyone else who wants a copy Begin forwarded message: > From: "Jakob Rigi" > Date: 9 November 2015 at 15:37:12 GMT > To: > Subject: Re: Inventing the Future > > Hi Anna, > I received it, thanks. But my compute

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Robin Murray on Post-Post-Fordism

2015-11-08 Thread Anna Harris
projects and roles, he was Director of Industry and Employment at the Greater London Council in the 1980s Anna > On 8 Nov 2015, at 16:40, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > I'm guessing gilbert murray should not be confused with the Robin M. that we > know, > > Michel > >>

[P2P-F] Jeremy Rifkin and China's New 5 Year Plan

2015-11-08 Thread Anna Harris
China is embracing Rifkin's Third Industrial Revolution for its new 5 Year Plan. Huffington Post has recently run a series of 4 articles by Rifkin, link provided in the article below. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-gardels/china-third-industrial-revolution_b_8478954.html _

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Robin Murray on Post-Post-Fordism

2015-11-07 Thread Anna Harris
d like to say again what I have said before, take time to look at the sky, talk to the trees, allow yourself to stay with these contradictory feelings, rather than judging them. Everything I have said here is just my personal take on how it is. If it means nothing to you, ignore it. With warm frie

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Robin Murray on Post-Post-Fordism

2015-11-07 Thread Anna Harris
se the tacit, living labour, the codification atrophies.' (p13) In other words the two functions are not opposed to each other, but are complementary. The key is whether they are used to exploit by extracting a profit, or to benefit society. Anna > On 6 Nov 2015, at

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS

2015-11-02 Thread Anna Harris
tal world today". Could others enlighten what is meant by 'the stack'? Anna > On 3 Nov 2015, at 02:18, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > I don't see how this is contradictory, > > we don't have the power to implement this in the world, 'all at once' but >

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS

2015-11-02 Thread Anna Harris
Thank you Bob. An interesting way of encouraging people to opt for a more 'frugal' way of life, by paying them to do so. But it seems "this will only be possible if the mainstream economy remains healthy". Sorry, but what planet is this guy living on? Do you see any 'health' in the mainstream e

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS

2015-11-02 Thread Anna Harris
easy task, and the bulk of the book is given over to designing the strategy that would be required to bring this about. Anna > On 2 Nov 2015, at 12:36, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > agreed, > > but I think there is one thing that proponents underestimate, > > as Polan

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS

2015-11-02 Thread Anna Harris
of developing automation which is replacing labour, and which is traditionally resisted by labour. It is this attitude which needs to open to seeing automation as serving our interests rather than being the enemy which deprives us of work. Anna > On 2 Nov 2015, at 12:05, Michel Bauwens wr

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS

2015-11-02 Thread Anna Harris
iscuss the maths. What is emphasised here is the diminishment of the work ethic, with the reduction of the working week, and that these are political rather than financial battles. Anna > On 2 Nov 2015, at 10:41, wrote: > > Ana, > the main problem is that too many people are confusi

Re: [P2P-F] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS

2015-11-02 Thread Anna Harris
all of humanity rather than just the few. Anna On 2 Nov 2015, at 10:00, Ursula Huws wrote: > > What do you mean by ‘full automation’? Ursula > > From: Anna Harris [mailto:a...@shsh.co.uk] > Sent: 02 November 2015 09:19 > To: networkedlab...@lists.contrast.org; p2p-fou

[P2P-F] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS

2015-11-02 Thread Anna Harris
624336424483090/ I believe that this campaign could appeal widely across all political spectrums, and would welcome more discussion on this list. Anna ___ P2P Foundation - Mailing list Blog - http://www.blog.p2pfoundation.net Wiki - http://www.p2pfound

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: [historicalmaterialism] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS

2015-10-28 Thread Anna Harris
Peter, For £2 more you could have got the paperback and the e-book together, (an illustration of convergence towards zero marginal cost), and then given the paperback to your friends! Anna > On 26 Oct 2015, at 10:28, peter waterman wrote: > > Just bought the e-book version and not

[P2P-F] Education for all, including workers

2015-10-10 Thread Anna Harris
Paul Mason 6/10/15 17:30 Download the Twitter app This brilliant talk by Paul Mason is a must listen for all looking beyond capitalism, talking about the effect of information technology on the broader economic system. Anna ___ P2P Foundation

Re: [P2P-F] Elon Musk's bourgeois Mars

2015-09-30 Thread Anna Harris
Dear Kevin, Show some love and expand a little on these cryptic remarks that leave me puzzled. Anna > On 30 Sep 2015, at 01:59, Kevin Carson > wrote: > > Kim Stanley Robinson presented a pretty level-headed terraforming > scenario in the Mars Trilogy IMO. > > This art

[P2P-F] Fwd: Google becomes a Global Partner of the Ellen MacArthur Foundation

2015-09-29 Thread Anna Harris
Begin forwarded message: > From: Ellen MacArthur Foundation > Date: 29 September 2015 at 17:36:38 BST > To: Anna > Subject: Google becomes a Global Partner of the Ellen MacArthur Foundation > Reply-To: Ellen MacArthur Foundation > > > View this email in your browse

Re: [P2P-F] [WSF-Discuss] [NetworkedLabour] Greet the WEF founder, counterpart of the WSF, prof. Schwab the lead 'Social Entrepreneur'

2015-09-19 Thread Anna Harris
Can someone please explain the term 'truly Israeli' price which Paola Manduca introduced, and has been repeated by Tord? Thanks Anna > On 19 Sep 2015, at 16:52, Tord Björk wrote: > > I am concerned about several of Orsans contributions on the list recently and >

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] [Debate-List] Must-Read Piece by Assange on Communications, Empire and, of course, the US One!

2015-09-19 Thread Anna Harris
lling or able to undertake ourselves, but to appreciate the persistence and dedication that he has given. And I'm sure there are many others like him, unsung heroes, that we never hear about, who end up forgotten behind bars. Anna > On 18 Sep 2015, at 23:56, Orsan wrote: > >

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Greet the WEF founder, counterpart of the WSF, prof. Schwab the lead 'Social Entrepreneur'

2015-09-19 Thread Anna Harris
Orsan, What are you trying to say with this bio of Schwab? Anna > On 19 Sep 2015, at 00:33, Orsan wrote: > > Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman > > > Professor Klaus Schwab is the Founder and Executive Chairman of the World > Economic Forum, an independen

[P2P-F] The Real Reason The Permanent Political Class Is Freaking Out Over Jeremy Corbyn

2015-09-15 Thread anna
http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2015/09/14/the-real-reason-the-permanent-political-class -is-freaking-out-over-jeremy-corbyn/ Anna ___ P2P Foundation - Mailing list Blog - http://www.blog.p2pfoundation.net Wiki - http://www.p2pfoundation.net Show some

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Book "The End of the Beginning" finally published!

2015-08-25 Thread Anna Harris
Is there a singular lack of women's contributions to this volume? If so are women singularly uninterested in the future? Or is there some other explanation? ___ P2P Foundation - Mailing list Blog - http://www.blog.p2pfoundation.net Wiki - http://www.p2pf

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] How the Paris Communards made their lives luxurious

2015-08-13 Thread anna
Thank you Peter. Truly stirring and inspirational interview and review of the book. Anna > On 13 Aug 2015, at 07:59, Peter Waterman wrote: > > http://libcom.org/history/how-paris-communards-made-their-lives-luxurious > ___ >

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] partner state as platonian illusion

2015-08-11 Thread anna
Whether there is a need for an overarching body in the transition phase, when traditional values are being challenged, may well differ from place to place according to the education, commitment and development of the citizens involved. Anna > On 11 Aug 2015, at 11:16, Michel Bauwens wro

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Social Democracy or Revolutionary Democracy: Syriza and Us | The Bullet No. 1149

2015-08-09 Thread anna
r as the state takes an authoritarian role, or there is hierarchy which interferes with the possibility of worker control, it will undermine the growth of emancipated individuals, and reproduce old conservative patterns. Anna > On 9 Aug 2015, at 14:12, Orsan Senalp wrote: > > r

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Social Democracy or Revolutionary Democracy: Syriza and Us | The Bullet No. 1149

2015-08-05 Thread anna
conscious social beings through that activity, a world in which we produce use-values for others and produce ourselves as part of the human family. How is this accomplished? Anna > On 2 Aug 2015, at 09:45, Peter Waterman

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Scholz - think outside the boss

2015-07-21 Thread Anna Harris
looking to government, which can begin to think about what is 'good work', and link to people's real needs. Also mentions Laloux book, Reinventing Organisations. Anna On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Orsan Senalp wrote: > Coop alternatives to corporate sharin

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Greece: A World-Historic Defeat???

2015-07-13 Thread Anna Harris
How it looks from a Greek agroeconomist viewpoint: http://www.arc2020.eu/2015/06/focus-on-greece-with-pavlos-georgiadis/ Anna On 13 Jul 2015, at 05:12, Orsan wrote: Is this the link? http://www.socialistproject.ca/bullet/1139.php > On 12 jul. 2015, at 22:57, Bob Haugen wr

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Greece: A World-Historic Defeat???

2015-07-13 Thread Anna Harris
the article something being handed over 'under the counter' so to speak? Anna On 13 Jul 2015, at 05:12, Orsan wrote: Is this the link? http://www.socialistproject.ca/bullet/1139.php > On 12 jul. 2015, at 22:57, Bob Haugen wrote: > > Interesting (to me, anyway, who on

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Internet Social Forum & Climate

2015-06-17 Thread Anna Harris
increasing awareness. Anna On 17 Jun 2015, at 18:42, peter waterman wrote: Michel Although, as you know, I generally agree with your posture toward ICT, I am not sure whether your response meets Ariel's concerns. Let me inter-leaf in horrible CAPS... 2014. From Coldwar Communism t

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: Update from the Office of Jeremy Rifkin

2015-04-13 Thread Anna Harris
Hi Bob, The link to the plan for Nords pas de Calais; http://www.accenture.com/sitecollectiondocuments/pdf/accenture-third-industrial-revolution-master-plan.pdf Glad you find this interesting. So do I. Anna On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Bob Haugen wrote: > Thanks, Anna, > >

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: Update from the Office of Jeremy Rifkin

2015-04-13 Thread Anna Harris
marginal cost. Now Roberto has given a much better explanation. ( I am helping to organise the next national gathering of UK Food Sovereignty which is taking place in Hebden Bridge where I live) Anna On 13 Apr 2015, at 12:47, Bob Haugen wrote: Just to be clear: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 3

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: Update from the Office of Jeremy Rifkin

2015-04-11 Thread Anna Harris
For number 3 read http://www.eib.org/attachments/general/events/20150302_momentum_for_europe_rifkin_en.pdf Anna On 11 Apr 2015, at 18:24, Bob Haugen wrote: Thanks for continuing, Anna. I have a few followup questions and comments. 1. Do you have any evidence of Rifkin's actual infl

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: Update from the Office of Jeremy Rifkin

2015-04-11 Thread Anna Harris
what he is accusing Rifkin of here, but I sense I don't agree with him. If you really want to understand Rifkin there is no substitute for reading his books. I am no authority to defend his ideas. But poking holes for the sake of it is a waste of time. Anna On 11 Apr 2015, at 18:34, M

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: Update from the Office of Jeremy Rifkin

2015-04-09 Thread Anna Harris
which never existed before. We have to find our common humanity to overcome the threat of extinction. Anna > On 8 Apr 2015, at 23:40, Bob Haugen wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Anna Harris wrote: > I don't think much good would be served by initiating a discussi

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: Update from the Office of Jeremy Rifkin

2015-04-08 Thread Anna Harris
are places where it is beginning to happen. Anna On 8 Apr 2015, at 17:42, Orsan Senalp wrote: Anna, what would be your comment on such cooperation or servicing of Rifkin to Chinese and German rulers, or may be more interesting question and to turn it around, of their interest in ending cap

Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: Update from the Office of Jeremy Rifkin

2015-04-08 Thread Anna Harris
: Actually, I thought it was interesting where he was going with his schtick. I had not kept up. Rifkin and Merkel! What a couple! On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM, peter waterman wrote: > Hi, Anna, > > I would have thought he was really on top of his self-publicity operation > and n

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