What a fascinating discussion Michel and Anna, and exactly the kind of
rant from Rajani that I presently feel is essential for our times.
However I agree that his male/female dichotomy between aggression and
nurturance is problematic.
What do I know? Well I have found that around this topic,
thank you Anna,
perhaps we can formulate it the following way
we both reject relations of domination and extraction towards people and
nature,
and the question is, if we want to remove them substantially, or totally,
what the causes are ? obviously where we locate them is important
so if we
Dear Michel,
Rereading your emails, there seem to be two conflicting themes. The evidence
you quote about decreasing levels of violence in our 'civilised' societies,
seems to indicate the need to restrain natural male aggression, supporting
Ranjani's point, which I have questioned.
In our
that they don't seem to have been the rule,
Michel
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Dear Michel,
We have had this discussion before, and you have failed to convince me. My
reading seems to have taken me in the opposite direction, coming across many
who see prehistory, and some still existing people, eg aborigines, as a time
when people lived harmoniously with each other and
dear Anna,
if you read anthropological accounts of Amazonian native tribes, such as in
the books of Pierre Clastre (societies against the state), and others, then
it seems that warfare was endemic, he even describes it as 'their favourite
passtime'; at the same time, it was more 'sporadic' ,
Thank you Michel. Actually I was just questioning whether aggression and
violence are a natural tendency in males, which has to be supressed. As Rajani
says:
"They managed to restrain male destructive drives – which are the scourge of
all living things - within the prison of affective, kin
Thanks for this reaction Anna,
I agree about agression and nurturing to be polarities in each of us, which
may then be culturally re-inforced and fixated in all kinds of ways by
cultures and societies,
But patriarchy predates EM by thousands of years, and gendering predates
patriarchy by tens of
