Re: window's content!

2000-09-29 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> In 3.5 we can use WinGetBitmap() to access a windows content, what is the > compatible command/combination of commands in 3.1? hi Flora. i posted a solution to the palm-dev-forum yesterday.. search the archives :)) // az [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ardiri.com/<--- free games!

Is the palm forum archived anywhere?

2000-09-29 Thread Tim Spurrell
Or is all this useful information lost forever? T. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

Re: Is the palm forum archived anywhere?

2000-09-29 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> Or is all this useful information lost forever? for me, its in my 1 Gig of mail folder :)) ~ardiri/mail :P i am sure many others have this too :P as for it being available publically? eScribe should have it :)) see the footer of this message for more info [it should be there] // az [

pilot-xfer for Windows

2000-09-29 Thread Ralph Krausse
Has anyone found a copy of pilot-xfer with Visual C++ sources? I need to integrate hotsync within a company used application. Thanks Ralph Krausse -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

SV: Is the palm forum archived anywhere?

2000-09-29 Thread Bulent Gecer
Check out http://www.egroups.com/group/palm-dev-forum /Bulent Gecer Tim Spurrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Or is all this useful information lost forever? > > T. > > > > -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsub

Re: how to have multiple code resources in a shared library?

2000-09-29 Thread Rob Dugal
Well it appears as if this won't work. I get a failure when the shared library tries to load the code resource using DmGet1Resource('plug', 1000). The concept works if I'm loading another code resource in an application but not in a shared library. I am including the plugin code resource "Plugin

RE: Power-off event

2000-09-29 Thread Stringer
>Subject: Power-off event >From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:32:27 -0500 >Is there anyone who knows how to capture auto power-off > event and manually power-off even on PalmOS 3.1, please > kindly advice. >Thanks a lot in advance. > As I posted a couple of weeks ago, th

Re: How Do I control a Modem?

2000-09-29 Thread Ayers Family Member
I want to create a program that sends data over phone lines to a PC using the modem. Jeff Ayers Chris Percival wrote in message <25704@palm-dev-forum>... > >What so you want to do with it? > >Chris > >Ayers Family Member <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:25700@palm-dev-forum... >> >> I

Re: resource databases

2000-09-29 Thread PalmOS
Thanks for the info, Tom. I've been using Codewarrior so I'm not sure what I need to do here. On the dialog for the Palmrez Post Link, it has two lines for input files. The first one is "Mac Resource Files" and the next one is "Text Description Files". Any idea how I could make this work for m

Link error while creating a library

2000-09-29 Thread Ralph Krausse
I am trying to create a lib from the Samplelib in the SDK. I created a project, essentially copy the code over, verified the settings and tried to compile and link. I am getting this error. The only difference is that my project is in C++. Can anyone please help. What might be wrong. This is my er

Re: Is the palm forum archived anywhere?

2000-09-29 Thread Dave Lippincott
or news.palmos.com - Original Message - From: "Bulent Gecer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: palm-dev-forum To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 8:39 AM Subject: SV: Is the palm forum archived anywhere? > Check out > > http://www.egroups.co

RE: Link error while creating a library

2000-09-29 Thread Metalle Gary-GMETALL1
Hi Ralph. I had this too a couple of days ago with the same example (SampleLib). I can't remember how I fixed it but I didn't have to fiddle with the project settings. Try deleting the object code from the menu so that it forces CodeWarrior to do a clean build. That might do it. I wasn't using C+

Re: Help Determining Program Feasibility

2000-09-29 Thread Derek Kite
Craig: I don't know if this will be of interest, but I am working on a service call tracking app. jobtracker.sourceforge.net. Haven't got to the syncing with desktop yet. Derek (please note the GPL) On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, you wrote: > Hi, > > > As a quick overview, we have a central database, w

Active Window (Active Object)question???

2000-09-29 Thread Mostapha Bouterfass
Hi all, How can I know typeof the active window?? exactelly i want to knw if the active window (or object) is a field or not it will be very helpfull Mostapha -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

Employees want to Sync away from Office, What does IS need to know??

2000-09-29 Thread Heather Gazdik
HI, Where can my Information systems dept. go to find information about wireless synchronization? For example... employees want to start using checking their email calendars and company website from the road. What server should it run from...etc.. Thanks, Heather Gazdik -- For information o

Re: Link error while creating a library

2000-09-29 Thread Dave Lippincott
If you're using Codewarrior, make sure the option 'Target/68K Target/File Name' matches what's entered in 'Linker/PalmRez Post Linker/Mac Resource Files' entry > > Link Error : __RuntimeModule__: '__Startup__' referenced from > '__DummyStartup__' is undefined. > > > Thanks > Ralph Krausse -

RE: Employees want to Sync away from Office, What does IS need t o know??

2000-09-29 Thread Butch Howard
http://www.synchrologic.com Butch Howard Synchrologic, Inc Suite 650 200 North Point Center East Alpharetta, GA 30022 770 754 5600 > Where can my Information systems dept. go to find information about > wireless synchronization? > For example... employees want to start using checking their > e

Re: Simple (?) question about dates and strings

2000-09-29 Thread Dave Lippincott
Wheeler, Chop the string up into month, day and year strings, convert to integers, then assign the results to your DateTimeType. - Original Message - From: "wheeler wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: palm-dev-forum To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, Septemb

Re: 16 bit color Handspring Prism and chunk size limit

2000-09-29 Thread Richard Hartman
Tom Zerucha wrote in message <25814@palm-dev-forum>... > >On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 02:34:48PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> Why isn't this thread on handspring-forum? > >Because there is only palm-dev, not separate palmos-dev, and >palm-hardware-dev, and real-palm-stuff-only-no-licenc

RE: Where is HEAP Memory!!

2000-09-29 Thread Scott Johnson (Bellevue)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > i checked the heap memory before and after calling PilotMain. > i allocate dynamic memory in only [one instance]. > To my surprse the two values were different!! > i concluded there is a memory leak. but where is it?? The OS can allocate dy

localization just not there

2000-09-29 Thread Stephen Bentley
Hello all. I'm giving localization a try but can't quite get it. Here's what I've done. 1. Created an overlay prc using the PRC2OVL tool and named it MyApp_esES.prc 2. Loaded up the Spanish ROM on my POSE 3. Installed both the base and overlay prcs on POSE 4. When I run my app I put a debug stat

RE: Power-off event

2000-09-29 Thread Jim Schram
At 9:00 AM -0400 9/29/00, Stringer wrote: >As I posted a couple of weeks ago, the only reliable way I'm aware >of is to do so in a shared library, because the Palm OS does send >power off and power on events to shared libraries. Be aware that during emergency power off conditions, such as a criti

Re: How Do I control a Modem?

2000-09-29 Thread Tom Zerucha
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 07:16:15AM -0600, Ayers Family Member wrote: > I want to create a program that sends data over phone lines to a PC using > the modem. > > Jeff Ayers Modems 101... Check the manual (the technical one - should be included or on most vendor sites) for the "AT" commands. I

How to create a 1bpp offscreen bitmap?

2000-09-29 Thread Tom Zerucha
My code is failing on the IIIc, apparently because the offscreen bitmap I create is not 1bpp. Since I am composing 1bpp images, I really don't want to use 8x the memory. So how do I do this? There are no controls in the call. Do I have to force the device into 1bpp first? -- For information

RE: How to create a 1bpp offscreen bitmap?

2000-09-29 Thread Paul Bohme
Perhaps use BmpCreate to create the 1 bpp bitmap, then use WinCreateBitmapWindow to create a window around it? -P -Original Message- From: Tom Zerucha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:13 AM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: How to create a 1bpp offscreen b

Re: How to create a 1bpp offscreen bitmap?

2000-09-29 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> My code is failing on the IIIc, apparently because the offscreen > bitmap I create is not 1bpp. Since I am composing 1bpp images, I > really don't want to use 8x the memory. > > So how do I do this? There are no controls in the call. Do I have to > force the device into 1bpp first? tom, em

Re: Where is HEAP Memory!!

2000-09-29 Thread David Fedor
The memory manager might theoretically have had to allocate some structure for its internal management of memory. Also, you might now have a fragmented heap, and would almost certainly have two separate chunks marked as "free" whereas you previously would only have had one. Use the PalmDebugger

Re: Creating a pqa

2000-09-29 Thread Labhesh Patel
Hi, What value do I need to fill in the AppInfo block? The attributes contain dmHdrAttrLaunchableData and dmHdrAttrBackup. bye On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 06:42:11PM +, Labhesh Patel wrote: Hi, I wanted to create a pqa programatically. For this I open the database of an existing pqa, c

Re: Fatal error: Fatal exception

2000-09-29 Thread Labhesh Patel
Hi, More details: The error occurs when I close my application by tapping on the applications icon. The fatal Error occurs when the applications acreen tries to show up. This error does not occur when I use POSE Emulator. It only occurs on the actual device. The same error also occurs so

Mac and Palm

2000-09-29 Thread Heather Gazdik
HI, A friend of mine wants to get an Palm, but he has a Mac computer. He loves the idea of the USB support, but I am unsure how the compatibility of the device and the Mac are?? Is USB available for the Palm?? And what about the software. Can he run Outlook/or I quess if he had to use the pal

RE: Fatal error: Fatal exception

2000-09-29 Thread Craig Evans
This might sound obvious, but I was getting "access to unitialised global variable" type fatal exception in my early days of coding - most frustratingly immediately upon performing a hotsync to a live device. I assume you (Ramesh?) have something like the following as your AppMain and PilotMain r

Re: Mac and Palm

2000-09-29 Thread James Parker
>HI, > >A friend of mine wants to get an Palm, but he has a Mac computer. He loves >the idea of the USB support, but I am unsure how the compatibility of the >device and the Mac are?? > >Is USB available for the Palm?? > >And what about the software. Can he run Outlook/or I quess if he had to us

RE: Mac and Palm

2000-09-29 Thread Nesse, Rustin
Yep! Check out the Handspring Visor! -Rus >-Original Message- >From: Heather Gazdik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:55 AM >To: Palm Developer Forum >Subject: Mac and Palm > > >HI, > >A friend of mine wants to get an Palm, but he has a Mac >computer. H

Okay, I'm *really* confused..

2000-09-29 Thread Sean L. Gilley
After (somewhat unwillingly) taking most of the summer off, I'm starting again to work on the next version of my program. I mention that only because about the last major thing I did before summer began was to convert my program to use segments, and perhaps that has something to do with the curr

RE: Mac and Palm

2000-09-29 Thread Nesse, Rustin
Probably should elaborate...there are Mac Pacs for a lot of the PalmOS devices, and the Visor (at least, the one I got) came with a USB cradle that works great with my serial cradles, and Palm Desktop software that works with both Mac and PC. -Rus >-Original Message- >From: Nesse, Rust

Re: Graffiti upper shift

2000-09-29 Thread Alex Robinson
David Fedor wrote: > > >In fact, in at least one program, I go straight to memory to modify the > >bits under some versions of the OS. > > What do you need to do that the APIs don't allow? I haven't heard people > ask for things in this area, and if people don't ask, we can't always > guess... >

WinDrawBitmap problems on OS 3.3 in app compiled w/3.5 headers

2000-09-29 Thread Dan Hewins
I am having a strange problem with WinDrawBitmap. I have a section of code that looks like this: --- MemHandle iconH = NULL; UInt16 id; BitmapType* iconP; iconH = DmGet1Resource(iconType, id); // find DB's icon iconP = (BitmapType*) SynMemHandleLock(iconH); WinDrawB

RE: Link error while creating a library

2000-09-29 Thread Heather Tufts
> I am trying to create a lib from the Samplelib in the SDK. I created a > project, essentially copy the code over, verified the > settings and tried to > compile and link. I am getting this error. The only > difference is that my > project is in C++. Can anyone please help. What might be wrong

RE: CodeWarrior Datebook Example

2000-09-29 Thread Heather Tufts
I am using the Datebook target ( I think this is the > debug target). It is one of the debug targets -- you can tell that it is because there are little dots in the "Debug Information" column (last one in the project window) next to all the source files. I > keep getting the error message "Fa

Re: Mac and Palm

2000-09-29 Thread Dave Lippincott
We have a few Macs that hotsync using a USB->serial converter without any problems. We've also use the IR port on one of our Powerbooks to Hotsync. The Palm desktop is not too bad as a PIM. - Original Message - From: "Heather Gazdik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: palm-dev-forum To: "Pa

Re: Simple (?) question about dates and strings

2000-09-29 Thread Ken Krugler
At 12:00am -0700 00-09-29, Palm Developer Forum digest wrote: >Subject: Simple (?) question about dates and strings >From: "wheeler wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:57:49 -0400 >X-Message-Number: 100 > >Have I missed something? I need to convert a CharPtr (eg. "09/28/00") to a

Re: a Memo Pad [or text field] question

2000-09-29 Thread Ken Krugler
At 12:00am -0700 00-09-29, Palm Developer Forum digest wrote: >Subject: a Memo Pad [or text field] question >From: Paul Nevai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:24:44 -0400 (EDT) >X-Message-Number: 26 > >Dear Fellow Palm Programmers: > >Here is a challenging question. I would prefer a

Re: globals where?

2000-09-29 Thread Ken Krugler
At 12:00am -0700 00-09-29, Palm Developer Forum digest wrote: >Subject: globals where? >From: Richard Bram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:02:02 -0500 >X-Message-Number: 99 > >I've been writing hacks too long and I can't remember much about >globals. Using Metrowerks, do globals us

RE: Can't debug twice!?

2000-09-29 Thread Heather Tufts
Stephen, When you say "Wait while app is "downloaded" and wait for monitor to appear debug .. debug .. ah there's the flippin error .." What does "debug .. debug .." mean? Are you stepping through the code faster than the debugger can handle using the F10 and F11 keys? There have been thread

Re: question about creator-id registration

2000-09-29 Thread Alex Robinson
David Fedor wrote: > > >Is there any way to find out which IDs you have registered. Through an > >annoying oversight, I've got a few IDs that I *think* my company > >registered, but I'm not 100% sure. > > > >The problem is, they *are* registered, so I'm not sure if it's to us or > >someone else.

RE: Resource header file

2000-09-29 Thread Heather Tufts
> Dear sir, FYI... Some of us on this list are female. > I use CW6 with Stationary create simple program, when I make > change in > the Construction the resource header file that included in > Starter.C do not > change. > Your suggest would be great appreciate. Two possible problems. Chec

Strange problem with PalmOS 3.3 (but not with 3.5)

2000-09-29 Thread Tjeng-Bo Lie
In my event loop, when calling EvtGetEvents (on a PenDownEvent - when I tap on a dynamic button in a dynamic form,) I get the "Just read directly from unallocated chunk of memory" error inside WinDisplayToWindowPt(), RctPtInRectangle(), and WindowChange() routines when running on PalmOS 3.3 (both

RE: Code Warrior and Win 2K

2000-09-29 Thread Heather Tufts
> I run Windows 2000 and Code Warrior R6. In general I haven't had any > problems except that I cannot download the ROM from my Palm > VII. It always > times out. I have submitted this problem to Palm and to the > message boards > but have not heard of anyone else having this problem. I use

Re: WinDrawBitmap problems on OS 3.3 in app compiled w/3.5 headers

2000-09-29 Thread Richard Burmeister
From: "Dan Hewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: WinDrawBitmap problems on OS 3.3 in app compiled w/3.5 headers > I have a section of code that looks like this: > --- > MemHandle iconH = NULL; > UInt16 id; > BitmapType* iconP; > > iconH = DmGet1Resource(iconType, id); // find DB's icon >

Re: Creating a pqa

2000-09-29 Thread Tom Zerucha
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 06:11:02PM +, Labhesh Patel wrote: > Hi, > > What value do I need to fill in the AppInfo block? > The attributes contain dmHdrAttrLaunchableData and dmHdrAttrBackup. > 'lnch', then some magic numbers, then the length (in words) of the version string, then the ver

Re: WinDrawBitmap problems on OS 3.3 in app compiled w/3.5 headers

2000-09-29 Thread Dan Hewins
At 4:00 PM -0500 9/29/00, Richard Burmeister wrote: >From: "Dan Hewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: WinDrawBitmap problems on OS 3.3 in app compiled w/3.5 headers > > >> I have a section of code that looks like this: >> --- >> MemHandle iconH = NULL; >> UInt16 id; >> BitmapType* ico

Databases

2000-09-29 Thread Grounderyoyo22
Is it a bad idea to have 2 databases open at the same time? I want to have my app's DB open, and at the same time keep another DB open. The other DB gets called, opened, and referred to often, so I want to just keep it open, thus minimizing the amount of time it takes to get things from this DB

RE: Databases

2000-09-29 Thread Schau, Brian
No its not a bad idea IMHO. Just remember to close the db when your app gets the appStopEvent and open it when your app start ...! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 12:20 AM > To: Palm Developer Forum > Subject

Mofifying AppInfo block

2000-09-29 Thread Labhesh Patel
Hi, I was trying to modify the contents of the PQA AppInfo block. After creating the chunk which contains all the appInfo data - pqaTitleWords, pqaTitleStr etc.., how do I set the information in the Database header? In tha call to DmSetDatabaseInfo(..) there is a parameter called appInfoID

Re: WinDrawBitmap problems on OS 3.3 in app compiled w/3.5 headers

2000-09-29 Thread Richard Burmeister
Did you verify that iconH is not NULL after calling DmGet1Resource() ? - Original Message - From: "Dan Hewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:24 PM Subject: Re: WinDrawBitmap problems on OS 3.3 in app compiled w/3.5 he

Re: Mofifying AppInfo block

2000-09-29 Thread Hari Warrier
Look at any example app! See AddrAppInfoInit() in AddressDB.c "Labhesh Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:25908@palm-dev-forum... > > Hi, > > I was trying to modify the contents of the PQA AppInfo block. > After creating the chunk which contains all the appInfo data - > pqaTitle

launcher clipper with a pqa name

2000-09-29 Thread George Williams
Is it possible to launch clipper programatically with an argument which is the name of a pqa? -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

Data Moving Problem

2000-09-29 Thread Chang . Elizabeth
Hi All, I have problem understanding why data in rec gets changed in following function. What it does is simple, write data from record rec to the record handle recordH. While doing DmStrCopy, some data in the record gets changed. I don't understand why. I am not sure if this was caused by th

Re: Mofifying AppInfo block

2000-09-29 Thread Tom Zerucha
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 10:59:47PM +, Labhesh Patel wrote: > Hi, > > I was trying to modify the contents of the PQA AppInfo block. > After creating the chunk which contains all the appInfo data - > pqaTitleWords, pqaTitleStr etc.., how do I set the information in the > Database header?

Re: launcher clipper with a pqa name

2000-09-29 Thread David Fedor
>Is it possible to launch clipper programatically with an argument which is >the name of a pqa? Sure, that's easy. See the docs for sysAppLaunchCmdGoToURL. Sample code has been posted to this forum and/or the PQA-dev-forum a few times, too, so you might want to check the archives. -David Fedor

PalmOS 3.5.* listboxes have no respect

2000-09-29 Thread Francis
Palmos 3.5.* listboxes don't seem to respect the hasScrollBar flag, or clipping regions. The end result: The listboxes draw the little scroll up/down indicators, (that don't work) when you have the hasScrollBar flag on. Worse still, the up/down indicators are draw all over the place, because t

Re: Data Moving Problem

2000-09-29 Thread Danny Epstein
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:25912@palm-dev-forum... > I have problem understanding why data in rec gets changed in following function. I don't see why this is happening. Perhaps someone else will spot it. Are you sure it's not just the debugger having trouble with optimized code? I

Can I use GSysLowMemChecksum?

2000-09-29 Thread Jeff Ishaq
I noticed this datum in Globals.h. I was considering doing a checksum of low mem before/after my app loop to detect misbehaviors, something like: gPreChecksum = Crc16CalcBlock ( PilotGlobalsP, sizeof( LowMemHdrType), 0 ); // .. app execution ErrFatalDisplayIf( gPreChecksum != Crc16CalcBlock( Pil

Re: Can I use GSysLowMemChecksum?

2000-09-29 Thread krollin
Yes, it's already done automatically. The system has a timer procedure that fires several times a second to check if low-memory has been modified. Of course, Poser will tell you immediately when you access low-memory. No checksumming required! -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer

Re: Can I use GSysLowMemChecksum?

2000-09-29 Thread Jeff Ishaq
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:25918@palm-dev-forum... > > > > Yes, it's already done automatically. The system has a timer procedure that > fires several times a second to check if low-memory has been modified. Of what ROM versions is this checking implemented (and turned on)? Is thi

Re: PalmOS 3.5.* listboxes have no respect

2000-09-29 Thread Peter Epstein
I don't know how to keep list from drawing their own little scroll arrows, but I do know that you can generally use tables to do the same thing as lists, and they never draw these little scroll arrows. Of course, they don't have a border around them. -- Peter Epstein Palm Inc. Developer -- Fo

Re: Can I use GSysLowMemChecksum?

2000-09-29 Thread krollin
> Of what ROM versions is this checking implemented (and turned on)? Is this > a 3.1-and-up thing? If you're looking in Globals.h, then you should see: //--- // New Globals added for the 2.0 release... //---

HotSync Server?

2000-09-29 Thread J Gardner
I was wondering what the availability/pricing of HotSync Server. Does anybody out there know? -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

Re: launcher clipper with a pqa name

2000-09-29 Thread Tom Zerucha
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 04:15:34PM -0700, George Williams wrote: > > Is it possible to launch clipper programatically with an argument which is > the name of a pqa? Almost. You need a cardno/localid which you can get from DmFindDatabase on the name, then send that as a packet when you launch cl

Installation Problem

2000-09-29 Thread emerson tan
Hi! I'm new to this list and is just starting to develop software for palmos. I have this installation problem... I have CYGNUS installed on my machine. I downloaded PRC and PamOS SDK. When I invoked the PRC installer, it reported that I don't have CYGWIN installed on my machine? How do I get arou

Re: How Do I control a Modem?

2000-09-29 Thread Ayers Family Member
Thanks. But, I need some example code. I would feel better if I could reference some source before blindly walking down an untraveled road. Jeff Ayers Tom Zerucha wrote in message <25855@palm-dev-forum>... > >On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 07:16:15AM -0600, Ayers Family Member wrote: >> I want to creat