Re : Why XML ?

2001-07-10 Thread Olivier OTTAVI
Hi Everybody, First of all, sorry for the test, I was not sure that I can send a message to this list. Here is a good link which describe how to use SyncML to synchronise date between a handled device and a server. http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/Books/J2MEwireless/ This is a java tutoria

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-09 Thread Chris DiPierro
As to "Why XML" ... here's an application... We're writing an electonic forms app. All of our paper forms can be represented electronically via XML using a DTD that we created to define the rules of the form. We use expat and then a custom DOM parser to parse our XML forms. U

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-09 Thread Dave Carrigan
"David A. Desrosiers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You can often optimize XML files for character count if that is > > important; i.e. endtags, scrap unneeded elements, get rid of > > whitespace, and other stuff. > > If you remove < /> endtags, your XML parser will fail and your > docu

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-09 Thread Richard C. Dunn
> I completely disagree. XML hands the Palm the same exact data that > your Palm Desktop gives it, or your Hotsync Manager. The same EXACT data. > How it's represented on the desktop or server, who cares. Your Palm deals > with PDB, PRC and PQA files. XML gives the Palm this data in this f

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-09 Thread Chris Faherty
I wrote: >> That makes it very flexible in cut & paste situations, or at times when >> you want to shrink down an XML file which has too much information. On Monday 09 July 2001 12:23 am, David A. Desrosiers wrote: > An XML file which has too much information has absolutely no bearing > o

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Hallvard Trætteberg
"David A. Desrosiers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i melding news:55758@palm-dev-forum... > For me, I am using XML in a test capacity to hold and "represent" my > Palm data on my desktop. I am beginning to mature the pilot-link toolchain > to handle the input and output of this format natively. Why

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread David A. Desrosiers
> With the Palm's limited memory and processing power it makes it all the > more important to take a really hard look before incorporating it just > because it's the newest fad around. Like any new technology, XML can be > a solution looking for a problem, but it has found a lot of important > us

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread David A. Desrosiers
> That makes it very flexible in cut & paste situations, or at times when > you want to shrink down an XML file which has too much information. An XML file which has too much information has absolutely no bearing on the use of that XML file at all. You can simply change the query for the

RE: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread David A. Desrosiers
> XML is a way to define, organize and express data in human readable text > format. By definition it is extremely verbose, which puts it counter to > the way of Palm, where all our data is scrunched up into the smallest > space possible due to RAM size constraints. It's important to not

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Amleth Hyde-Brown
ps: palm-dev-forum To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Why XML? > Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > > > > > > > > > --On 08 July 2001 11:07 -0700 The Armadillo With The Mask > > <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread The Armadillo With The Mask
Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > > > > --On 08 July 2001 11:07 -0700 The Armadillo With The Mask > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Jimi Malcolm wrote: >> >>> What would someone use it for on the Palm? How would a database >>> interact >>> with it? Would the XML records be put into database recor

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Chris Faherty
On Sunday 08 July 2001 04:59 pm, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > There are also a thousand of different ways of resolving a problem and > while XML might be one of them, it does not have to be the right one or the > most efficient one... XML requires a parser, and like most parsers, you > need speed+mem

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
--On 08 July 2001 11:07 -0700 The Armadillo With The Mask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jimi Malcolm wrote: > >> What would someone use it for on the Palm? How would a database interact >> with it? Would the XML records be put into database records according >> to a DTD? > > I would say that

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread The Armadillo With The Mask
Jimi Malcolm wrote: > What would someone use it for on the Palm? How would a database interact > with it? Would the XML records be put into database records according to a > DTD? I would say that you would use XML not directly on the Palm, but as a format to translate to for the Palm. A likel

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Richard C. Dunn
> --On 08 July 2001 10:22 -0400 Jimi Malcolm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've been looking at a lot of XML pages and I understand the markup but am > > not sure if I have a use for it. > > I totally agree, the only thing I find XML useful for is for writing manual > pages. The way I do them i

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Chris Faherty
On Sunday 08 July 2001 10:25 am, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > I still can't see use for XML on palm... Would anyone care to point out one > thing that would actually benefit, opposed to doing something in a > different way, the users? XML is used for rss/rdf headlines from thousands of web sites. I

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Michael Nyrup
> What would someone use it for on the Palm? How would a database interact > with it? Would the XML records be put into database records according to a > DTD? -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
--On 08 July 2001 10:22 -0400 Jimi Malcolm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been looking at a lot of XML pages and I understand the markup but am > not sure if I have a use for it. I totally agree, the only thing I find XML useful for is for writing manual pages. The way I do them is tag the

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Jimi Malcolm
What would be an example of integrating XML into a Palm application? Jimi -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Jimi Malcolm
What would someone use it for on the Palm? How would a database interact with it? Would the XML records be put into database records according to a DTD? I've been looking at a lot of XML pages and I understand the markup but am not sure if I have a use for it. Jimi -- For information on us

RE: Why XML?

2001-07-08 Thread Mitch Fawcett
will be some Palm applications using XML, but not nearly as many as you'll see using it on PC's and CE devices. Mitch > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jimi > Malcolm > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 4:05 PM >

Re: Why XML?

2001-07-07 Thread Richard C. Dunn
> Would it take a text file (or string) from say MemoPad and parse it into a > database? Would it use a DTD inorder to know what to write to the database? It depends on what you are trying to do. XML is a text file in the same way HTML is a text file; they both originate from SGML. Whether you

Why XML?

2001-07-07 Thread Jimi Malcolm
What does a XML parser on the Palm have to do? I'm interested in writing one just as a learning exercise. Would it take a text file (or string) from say MemoPad and parse it into a database? Would it use a DTD inorder to know what to write to the database? What are the advantages of XML? Why