Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-12 Thread David Orriss Jr
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:19 PM, Ron Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George Henne writes: There really isn't any such thing as standard Basic. ANSI Standard for Minimal BASIC (X3.60-1978) ANSI Standard for Full BASIC (X3.113-1987) ISO Standard - Data Processing - Programming

RE: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [medium]

2002-12-12 Thread David Martin
*smile* Depending on your language religion, you may/may not find this interesting...but there's a Tcl/Tk port to the palm. (http://palm-tcl.sourceforge.net). ... Some people consider the problem space for Perl and Tcl somewhat overlapping. I treat languages like a big cafeteria - Perl is

RE: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [medium]

2002-12-12 Thread Ben Combee
I am using prc-tools/gcc/pilrc, do all tables have to be tied to a pdb file? Tables are just UI controls. Any connection to a Palm OS database is done by the programmer, and it isn't an innate property of the control. Its relatively easy to setup a table of all user-drawn cells that you

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [medium]

2002-12-12 Thread Brad Figler
Ben, Speaking of POL. Is there anyway to get a peek at their documentation? I looked on their website and I don't see anything to download. I wrote my own mini framework (more to familiarize myself with the OS than for any other reason) and I would like to move over to theirs if it can

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [medium]

2002-12-12 Thread Brad Figler
Never mind. I had to register to get it. I found it! Thanks anyway! Brad Brad Figler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:104947@palm-dev-forum... Ben, Speaking of POL. Is there anyway to get a peek at their documentation? I looked on their website and I don't see anything to

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS

2002-12-11 Thread Matthew Bevan
What percentage of C programs do not contain or use one of: On a DOS, Windows, Linux, or handheld machine? It makes a fair difference. libc DOS/Linux: nothing but. Windows: I use Delphi, so.. no. Palm: I don't need to. If I find a function not available in the OS, either I write my own,

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS

2002-12-11 Thread Aaron Ardiri
PalmOSRuntime_2i_A5.lib Eh? My C code uses no runtime files, though may have GLIB library code compiled in. Did you know that Metrowerks uses a compiled-in runtime file? (which may, in fact, be what you are talking about here...) There are no 32-bit add/sub/mul/div operations in the 68k

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS

2002-12-11 Thread Ben Combee
At 21:46 2002-12-10 +, you wrote: you can generate frighteningly small code in Metrowerks if you remove the standard library included by default in every project. ;) Yes, but you may not be able to load multiple segments, use C++ exceptions or new/delete, have static initialization for C++

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS

2002-12-11 Thread Aaron Ardiri
Yes, but you may not be able to load multiple segments, use C++ exceptions or new/delete, have static initialization for C++ objects, or support longjmp and exit if you skip the CW runtime. We still supply the minimal StartupCode.lib for tiny C applications, and most of the entries in the

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-11 Thread Ron Nicholson
someone wrote: I feel that BASIC is a bit of a kludge (i.e. poor choice) of a language for very small devices. The 70's versions of BASIC (and Forth) were designed for small devices (when you needed to develop programs on the device). BASIC ran on 8k Altairs and 16k Apple II's, no C compiler

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-11 Thread Dustin Davis
Well it looks like we have a BASIC expert... Anyone can write a program in a language they are familiar with. You know C. Other people know Basic much better. Some know Pascal or Perl, etc better. Some people can write books in Latin. Yeah, I'm still waiting for someone to release a

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-11 Thread Steven M. Jerrett
Dustin Davis wrote: Well it looks like we have a BASIC expert... Yeah, I'm still waiting for someone to release a perl-Pk (Palm Kit) module :o) Hey, and maybe Microsoft can give us a feature in Access to export to palm... Don't hold your breath on that one. They're trying to swallow up

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-11 Thread kcorey
I can't believe I'm playing in the flame-baiting sandbox, but what the heck. My basic position is that if you only know one language, you haven't begun to explore the space. Arguing passionately for a single language means either 1) you make your money from that language or 2) you haven't

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-11 Thread kcorey
*smile* Depending on your language religion, you may/may not find this interesting...but there's a Tcl/Tk port to the palm. (http://palm-tcl.sourceforge.net). As I understand it, you do the development on the PC and it gets compiled and then sent to the Palm. Some people consider the problem

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-11 Thread Paul R.
...but I've been a card carrying geek (tete d'ampoule) for a while now. Bulb head? That's a weird one. Does it imply egghead? (tĂȘte d'oeuf?) (Along with the .NET library for the Palm, of course). It'll be the solution to all our language tribulations! The Monopoly rolls on. Reminds me of the

Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS

2002-12-11 Thread Ron Nicholson
kcorey writes: Arguing passionately for a single language means either 1) you make your money from that language or 2) you haven't explored enough. Sorry. I jumped into this thread late. I thought it was a C programmer who suggested that the only programming language with which one should

Re: Re: using Visual Basic to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-11 Thread kcorey
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:25, Paul R. wrote: ...but I've been a card carrying geek (tete d'ampoule) for a while now. =20 Bulb head? That's a weird one. Does it imply egghead? (t=EAte d'oeuf?) *smile* I was just on a contract in Switzerland. The first French word I learned from a native was what