Comrada Tiboz Thanks for the documents you prepared, which deepens the ideo-political and organisational debates further. We need to subject these and many other documents to an organisational process that will ultimately lead to the party to finaly agree on a collective agreed party line.
If permisable we might need an inclusive political gathering to further engage various views so as to create a convergence of thought and purposeful organisational action. Above all as a matter of principle I agreed with the advance you made that the PAC should transform itself to assume a mass based character on a socialist programme under the leadership of the African proletarian for the destruction of capital imperialism and for unification of Africa. Secondly the reviewal of the party's aims and objectives in light of the international and local political and social context since 1959, 1912, 1910, 1652. Shango lasho Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi 0749226361 Sent from Samsung tablet Tiboz <ntonith...@gmail.com> wrote: >Dear Comrades, > >For a number of years many initiatives were started, with varying degrees >of success, to salvage the Azanian Revolution and the PAC in particular. >Most of these cannot succeed without an ideologically informed framework, >strategic direction and infrastructure. The valuable contributions of the >comrades are really exciting. We are definitely going somewhere, >qualitatively and temporaly. The essence of the discussion on the >efficiency ticket, ANC's 2nd Transition and Permanent Revolution can be >summarised, as correctly suggested by Cde Mshishi, as Reformation vs >Revolution? The 2nd Transition, efficiency ticket, and PAC's own recent >nationalistic social democracy vulgerisation, can be grouped as branches of >the same Reformation tree. All such approaches stand in direct opposition >to what Sobukwe saw as one of our historic roles: "to create an >organisational machinery for the galvanising of the oppressed, exploited >and degraded African masses into an irresistible social force bent upon *the >destruction of all factors and forces that have reduced the stature of man >and retarded his growth; and also bent upon the creation of conditions >favourable for the restoration of man's worth and dignity*, and for the >development of the African personality." The reformation paradigm >essentially considers Man as an economic animal, and therefore undermines >the criticality of social relations (to which which, according to Sobukwe, >economic relations must be subordinated). >I have attached 4 documents drafted by this author, that go into more >detail on this valuable discussion. The 1st document (NDR and Permanent >Revolution) explores the topic introduced by Cde Mshishi. The other 3 >documents were written in 2009, 2011 and 2012, conceptualising the >ideological framework and high level strategic dircetion for Pan >Africanists. These documents are intended to contribute to the ongoing >discussions, and are themselves undergoing change through reviews and >development. >Lastly, I invite inputs from you dear comrades. > > >Izwe Lethu > >Thabo Ntoni > >On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:29:49 AM UTC+2, tembelani xundu wrote: > >> Comrades >> >> I find Matome's comment very intriguing and spot on. I suggest that few >> Comrades should lead a discussion on the so called 'national democratic >> revolution' as espoused by the charterist camp (ANC,SACP & COSATU) and the >> Permanent Revolution (championed by Trosky). The loose combination of >> national liberation agaisnt settler colonialism and establishment of a >> democratic order is what easily lead to a religiuos embrace of the two >> stage theory and the coining of documents like first and second transition >> by the charterist. The whole liberation movement is now wrongly defined as >> proponents of this NDR.The establishment of a socialist democracy is a >> single process that cannot be achieved over night, and means, in our old >> but relevant revolutionary jargon that the colonial apartheid system cannot >> be reformed but changed. I invite Comrades Thabo Ntoni, Jaki Seroke, >> Raymond Kgakgudi, Charge Inn Mabaso and Cunninham Ngcukana to lead this >> discussion on the National Democratic Revolution and Permanent Revolution >> and place the National Question in its correct ideological location. We >> are going somewhere Comrades, thanks to Cde Matome. >> >> Tembelani >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "mma...@webmail.co.za <javascript:>" <mma...@webmail.co.za<javascript:> >> > >> To: pa...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >> Cc: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:19 AM >> Subject: [PAYCO] What the masses will look for in choosing leadership for >> SA, as they overthrow the ruling regime!! >> >> A closer look at the South African society and its structural organisation >> suggests we are headed for change of government much sooner than many >> believe. >> >> While most of us share in the analytic conclusion that the ruling regime >> is on a collapse mode, we have however not given ourselves time to >> postulate, scientifically at least, how and what will our people look to in >> making this decision. My conversation recently with some of our comrades, >> the lowest of the pyramid so to speak, in Langa, Cape Town has got me >> thinking a lot about the reality of this question. I suggest that we get >> seized with this kind of analysis to avoid guess work, spontaneity in >> prosecuting the revolution that awaits us and is near. I flag a few ideas >> on this matter. >> >> I am of the strongest view that our people bearing the brunt of isolation >> and general poverty will choose between: a leadership founded out of >> revolution or a leadership founded on efficiency. >> >> What is certain is that many of our people are rapidly concluding that if >> they wish to remove the ruling regime on an efficiency ticket, the DA shall >> be their vanguard. Many of our people look at the efficiency in governance >> in Cape Town COMPARED to other governments ran by our African brothers. >> Viewed from this angle, it needs be understood, and perhaps not necessarily >> conceded to, that to remove the ruling elite on an efficiency ticket would >> be a difficult one as this ground is already taken and occupied by the DA. >> I am not even sure that removing the regime on efficiency ticket is the >> right thing for us and in fact I suggest not. This option suggests that the >> system is ok, all we need to do is to get it to run efficiently. This by >> the way is the view of capital and its political front, DA. A change of >> government on this ticket will compromise the fundamentals of our freedom >> cause. So it must be clear that our only option path to remove the ruling >> elite is through revolution as this offers us a real opportunity to destroy >> the system and not to reform it. >> >> As stated the masses will also evaluate whether they should remove the >> regime through revolution as opposed to the efficiency gentlemash option. >> This entails getting them to question the foundational issues of our >> society and how these relate to our day to day aspirations. This unlike, >> the efficiency ticket, is the ticket that has no owner. Whoever takes on >> this ticket (revolution path) will lead our masses into government change. >> Timing is of the essence here. Should we not act with speed and urgency on >> this ticket, and the efficiency ticket triumphs, our people will go into >> lull in the hope that the efficiency philosophy will deliver. Since the >> revolution path is the only meaningful way, we must adopt it and show our >> people that this is the only option to substantive freedom and to self >> determination. The efficiency path is championed by liberals resident in >> many organisations including ours. We must be on guard, ridding ourselves >> of this ill at every turn. >> >> The truth though is that as we stand here today, our people in significant >> numbers are shifting to the efficiency path as the way to free themselves, >> and see the DA in that context as their leader. What they don't see is a >> leader to guide them should they adopt the revolution path option. >> Communities keep rising now and again but all these have been leaderless, >> only to be reduced to angry lone spots that are quick fizzle out and >> dissipate. >> >> We need to urgently converge and decide on activities to win our people s >> confidence that we can lead the revolution path option. >> >> >> Afrika is our land !! >> >> Matome Mashao >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® >> >> -- >> Sending your posting to pa...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >> >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-un...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> >> You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco >> >> Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com >> > >-- >Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com > >Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco > >Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
