Comrade Ndamane Matters of principle cannot be negotiated but should enforced, for this PAC should have an NEC that functions properly and normally. You are fully correct there should be accountability and transparency, however such cannot be achieved with a dysfunctional and disunited NEC! If the NEC groupings persist it implies no NEC meeting will sit due to quorum problems, to quorate based on Cde Letlapa commands also less than 13 NEC members and Cde Narius commands less than 15 NEC members very soon this less 15 will shrink as soon as other NEC members distance themselves from these warring groupings.
Secondly, the Accounting Officer must be appointed by the PAC National Executive Council, there is no Act or Law that declares the Secretary General of a political party to be an Accounting Officer! An Accounting Officer is appointment as explained by the PUBLIC FUNDING OF REPRESENTED POLITICAL PARTIES ACT 103 OF 1997 Section 6 it states that Political parties to account for moneys allocated to them from Fund(1) Every political party to which moneys are allocated from the Fund, must-(a) keep, with a bank registered in the Republic, a separate banking account into which all moneys so allocated to the party must be deposited; and (b) appoint an office-bearer or official of that party as its accounting officer with regard to all moneys from time to time allocated to that party from the Fund. All these again comes back to the necessity for a normal functioning NEC, to resolve and action issues you raise such as audits etc, above all PAC programmes and purpose of existence must be carried with haste. Shango lashu! Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi -----Original Message----- From: sndam...@pac-cape.org.za [mailto:sndam...@pac-cape.org.za] Sent: 21 June 2013 02:04 PM To: Narius Moloto Cc: 'vakele mkandawire'; 'Johnson Mlambo'; 'Joe Thloloe'; 'Jaki Seroke'; 'Jerry Vakasha'; 'Ray Johnson'; 'Julian Mohlala'; 'Kindo Makhanda'; 'Khethamabala Sithole'; 'Advocate K Sizani'; 'Baliwinile Kwankwa'; 'KK Kekana'; 'Kenny Bafo'; 'Kgomotso Matsebe'; 'Khensani Teffu'; 'King Lebea'; 'Lucky Khoza'; 'Malusi Kolie'; 'Phillip Kgosana'; 'Tommy Kantando'; 'wiseman mashego'; kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; kub...@telkomsa.net; 'APLAMVA LIMPOMPO'; 'Gerald Lerobane'; 'L Lekgwathi'; 'Leaga Lesufi'; 'Lehlohonolo Shale'; 'Lesomepedi Boshego'; 'Letlapa Mphahlele'; 'Lethola Mofokeng'; 'Lucky Moeketsi'; 'Lumkile August'; luyand...@gmail.com; 'Simon Moeketsi'; 'Sello Letjala'; znd...@hotmail.com; 'Puseletso Zwane'; 'Zamikhaya Gxabe'; 'Zandi Radebe'; 'Zola Mbi'; 'Zukisa Mxesibe'; 'Zuko Camagu'; 'Zuko Hlulani'; 'Sbusiso Xaba'; 'Tembelani Xundu'; 'Xola Mketi'; 'Xola Tyamzashe'; 'Xolani Mabanga'; 'Xolani Makwedini'; 'Xolelwa Njamela'; 'Mthuthuzeli Vena'; 'Samuel Marole'; 'Vusi Mahlangu'; 'Vuyiswa Cekwana'; vumilemof...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; 'PAYCO Azania'; jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; jabumakha...@yahoo.com; 'Andiswa Mjali'; montja...@yahoo.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; 'Justice Mvakali'; 'Themba Hlatshwayo'; g...@bcawu.co.za; g...@nactu.org.za; apap...@webmail.co.za; aplamvanatio...@gmail.com; 'Wandisile Mandlana'; rakwe...@yahoo.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; rmtl...@gmail.com; rmse...@gmail.com; rateb...@webmail.co.za; 'Themba Hlatshwayo'; telite...@gmail.com; 'Thembeka Majali'; tob...@yahoo.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; twa...@pac.org.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; yolisamazo...@gmail.com; 'Deputy President'; ikeyisa...@gmail.com; 'Malesela Mogashwa'; 'Ike Mafole'; 'Albert Mokoena'; ad...@pac.org.za; 'Archie Kota'; a...@joburg.org.za; a...@a-aprp-gc.org; azaania...@gmail.com; angwa...@webmail.co.za; samrad...@upd.co.za; solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; 'Sipho Linda'; 'Fitzroy Ngcukana'; d...@pac.org.za; dannymonar...@gmail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com; frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; 'Fihla Brig Gen'; 'Gantsu '; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; justice.mvak...@gmail.com; ju-...@webmail.co.za; 'PASMA Gauteng'; khoi.so...@gmail.com; leratolepha...@ymail.com; leaga.les...@up.ac.za; 'Lulamile Ntonzima'; 'Zwelethemba Twalo'; ckoms...@yahoo.com; crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; va...@webmail.co.za; 'Bra Mike Motsobane'; baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; nancykob...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; 'Malinge Plaatjie'; mafub...@hotmail.com; 'Mathapelo Dhlamini'; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; mpumele...@gmail.com; 'Manelisi Mampana'; mphash...@webmail.co.za; maiv...@pac.org.za; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com; 'Mawethu Sidzamba'; nrkgag...@gmail.com; nkrumah.kgag...@ananzi.co.za; Narius Moloto Subject: Re: IEC In 2007 just few days after floor crossing myself & Imam Achmad Cassiem then PAC SG, we had a meeting with the National Parliament Deputy Secretary with regards to PAC Parliamentary Account & Constituency Account and PAC assets in Parliament. . . We were told in no uncertain terms that it is PAC that is voted into Parliament not the MPs, it is the PAC that decides who is deployed to be an MP, therefore, the accountability of those Accounts rests with the PAC as an organization. When the Parliament and/or IEC decides to cut the funding due to maladministration, unaccountability it is the obligation of the PAC to furnish the authorities with relevant documentation to ensure it complied with the rules and regulations. It is the duty of the PAC leadership to ensure that it is in complience with those rules and regulations especially the Secretary General as the Chief Accounting Officer of the organization. [you might have noticed that when COPE was having problems with compliance in Parliament; secondly, with the ANC when their Parliamentary Office was said to have used those funds for other things that are not in compliance with the rules and regulations GWEDE had to step-in] Therefore, if there is a problem with the Parliamentary Funds the PAC must sort it out . . .The only thing that Parliament and IEC will do is to STOP the funding to the PAC, period ! Until we sort our house in order . . . To avoid pointing fingers the NEC should appoint a credible firm to do Foreignsic Audit to those Accounts then upon recieving an Audit report, if there are evidence of financial misconduct, the NEC can charge the MP for financial misconduct. The weakness of the PAC, we are not strong in administration, yes we do have administrators but they submit to their politcal heads to the detriment of good administration . . . When last did we have audited financial statements in the party ??? When I say Audited I mean audited NOT this thing of buying a STAMP and a signature from a registered auditor just to show compliance . . . In 1996 we were in Thohoyandou Congress, it was resolved that an audit of all PAC assests in exile and monies fundraised be conducted and criminal charges be laid to those found wanting with PAC Assets and money . .(17 yrs later) . . now 2013 did you ever heard anything (in Conferences/Congresses) about PAC Assets in exile, monies from foreign donors ! NOTHING I am still having clear vision of Cde Cater Seleka literally crying in the Congress saying for him and his family to eat Cde Sizani at least got them 12kg Maize Meal and 5l Fishoil every month . . . because PAC could not pay his salary, money gone and no accountability. Now people are reluctant to give monies to PAC because they feel it won't be accounted for . . . I believe we can do things right and please lets do things right . . . iAfrika Quoting Narius Moloto <s...@pac.org.za>: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Narius Moloto [mailto:g...@nactu.org.za] > Sent: 21 June 2013 08:18 AM > To: s...@pac.org.za > Subject: FW: Make le mkhandewira misinformation campaign about the > high court ruling. > > > Dear All > > > Although we are not allowed to make any elaborate comments due to > appeal processes, there are things that must be corrected urgently to > avoid confusion to the members and the public in general. > > Mvakele does not tell you about the court interdict of the 17th May > 2013 of the same court, he does not tell you that the meeting of the > 18th May 2013 was interdicted and therefore unlawful. Normally courts > will not take kindly a person or group of persons who defy the court > to approach the same court for relieve. > > QUORUM ISSUE > > Mvakele does not tell you that the same meeting that there has never > been a disagreement about the quorum of the NEC at any stage, he also > does not tell you that Letlapa Mphahlele chaired four other NEC > meetings with less members than there one which suspended him and that > some NEC meetings he chaired only had ten members. That there four NEC > members who never attended a single NEC meeting. > > That no single NEC meeting was ever attended by more than 22 members > as judge Kgomo quorum requires that the meeting which was interdicted > was only attended by less than 8 elected NEC members. He does not tell > you further that Letlapa shall never ever be able to chair a meeting > of more than eight members of the NEC of the PAC in his lifetime. > > It is therefore clear that Letlapa must accept that he in any event > lost support of the majority of the NEC members and cannot even if he > restored to the position of presidency command support or even a > quorum. Mkhandawire knows these facts very well these above facts > themselves suggest that it is impossible to impose a person on others. > > We must accept that Letlapa's presidency in the PAC is now history and > that keeping on discussing history will never take us forward. > > Why for a moment are you not discussing the charges and the outcomes > of those charges? > > Is it because you want to politicize crime and run away with it? > > Where are party funds from Parliament and IEC? Who must be held accountable? > > Go to IEC party funding it is public information, PAC is the only > political party that could not account for the total grant of 120 000 annual grant. > How can a party leader failing to account for such little amount > entrusted with public funds? All this happened under his rule by > decree he bears the sole responsibility to account. > > If we keep on patronizing each other and fail to face hard and > difficult questions facing our party then we are getting nowhere. > Political hypocrisy is the worse form of crime in the PAC. > > Regards > > > Narius Moloto > Secretary General > > -----Original Message----- > From: vakele mkandawire [mailto:mvak...@gmail.com] > Sent: 20 June 2013 11:52 AM > To: 'Johnson Mlambo'; 'Joe Thloloe'; 'Jaki Seroke'; 'Jerry Vakasha'; > 'Ray Johnson'; 'Julian Mohlala'; 'Kindo Makhanda'; 'Khethamabala > Sithole'; 'Advocate K Sizani'; 'Baliwinile Kwankwa'; 'KK Kekana'; > 'Kenny Bafo'; 'Kgomotso Matsebe'; 'Khensani Teffu'; 'King Lebea'; > 'Lucky Khoza'; 'Malusi Kolie'; 'Phillip Kgosana'; 'Tommy Kantando'; > 'wiseman mashego'; kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; > kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; kub...@telkomsa.net; 'APLAMVA LIMPOMPO'; > 'Gerald Lerobane'; 'L Lekgwathi'; 'Leaga Lesufi'; 'Lehlohonolo Shale'; > 'Lesomepedi Boshego'; 'Letlapa Mphahlele'; 'Lethola Mofokeng'; 'Lucky > Moeketsi'; 'Lumkile August'; luyand...@gmail.com; 'Simon Moeketsi'; > 'Sello Letjala'; znd...@hotmail.com; 'Puseletso Zwane'; 'Zamikhaya > Gxabe'; 'Zandi Radebe'; 'Zola Mbi'; 'Zukisa Mxesibe'; 'Zuko Camagu'; > 'Zuko Hlulani'; 'Sbusiso Xaba'; 'Tembelani Xundu'; 'Xola Mketi'; 'Xola > Tyamzashe'; 'Xolani Mabanga'; 'Xolani Makwedini'; 'Xolelwa Njamela'; > 'Mthuthuzeli Vena'; 'Samuel Marole'; 'Vusi Mahlangu'; 'Vuyiswa > Cekwana'; vumilemof...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com; > paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; 'PAYCO Azania'; > jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; jabumakha...@yahoo.com; 'Andiswa Mjali'; > montja...@yahoo.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; 'Justice Mvakali'; 'Themba > Hlatshwayo'; g...@bcawu.co.za; g...@nactu.org.za; apap...@webmail.co.za; > aplamvanatio...@gmail.com; 'Wandisile Mandlana'; rakwe...@yahoo.com; > richardma...@yahoo.com; rmtl...@gmail.com; rmse...@gmail.com; > rateb...@webmail.co.za; 'Themba Hlatshwayo'; telite...@gmail.com; > 'Thembeka Majali'; tob...@yahoo.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; > twa...@pac.org.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; > yolisamazo...@gmail.com; 'Deputy President'; ikeyisa...@gmail.com; > 'Malesela Mogashwa'; 'Ike Mafole'; 'Albert Mokoena'; ad...@pac.org.za; > 'Archie Kota'; a...@joburg.org.za; a...@a-aprp-gc.org; > azaania...@gmail.com; angwa...@webmail.co.za; samrad...@upd.co.za; > solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; > sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; s...@pac.org.za; 'Sipho Linda'; > sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; 'Fitzroy Ngcukana'; d...@pac.org.za; > dannymonar...@gmail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; > drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com; frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; 'Fihla > Brig Gen'; 'Gantsu '; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; > justice.mvak...@gmail.com; ju-...@webmail.co.za; 'PASMA Gauteng'; > khoi.so...@gmail.com; leratolepha...@ymail.com; leaga.les...@up.ac.za; > 'Lulamile Ntonzima'; 'Zwelethemba Twalo'; ckoms...@yahoo.com; > crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; > va...@webmail.co.za; 'Bra Mike Motsobane'; baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; > ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; > nancykob...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; 'Malinge Plaatjie'; > mafub...@hotmail.com; 'Mathapelo Dhlamini'; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; > mpumele...@gmail.com; 'Manelisi Mampana'; mphash...@webmail.co.za; > maiv...@pac.org.za; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com; 'Mawethu > Sidzamba'; nrkgag...@gmail.com; nkrumah.kgag...@ananzi.co.za > Subject: Letter to PAC President > > Good Morning, > > Kindly find attached letter addressed to PAC President on 11/05/2013 > > -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pan Africanist Youth Congress" group. 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