[pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Jonathan Imber
Having used pca to patch both a Solaris 8 and Solaris 10 Netbackup master and media servers the application refused to work. Considerable time was spent looking at Kernel, mpt patches etc. before the problem was diagnosed as a Netbackup version mismatch i.e. the media server being newer than th

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Martin Paul
Jonathan, Not being an experienced user of pca it did not immediately occur to me that pca would also patch Netbackup, can anyone suggest the best method of excluding patches for a particular application? If you don't want to use the ignore option, you can alternatively use the pattern optio

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Jonathan Imber
Thanks Martin, I will add this to the pca.conf file a give it a go. Is there any way I can force pca to only apply the recommended and security patches? Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Paul Sent: 14 August 2008 1

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Martin Paul
Hi, Is there any way I can force pca to only apply the recommended and security patches? Read about patch groups in the OPERANDS section of the docs. The default is "missing", which means all missing patches. You can add "r" and/or "s" to restrict this to a subset. "pca -l missingrs" woul

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Jeff A. Earickson
Jonathan, I put the following line in my .pca file to avoid Veritas Netbackup and sendmail (I roll my own version of both): pattern=!VERITAS|sendmail The NOT VERITAS keeps the Sun version of Netbackup away. Jeff Earickson Colby College On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Jonathan Imber wrote: Date: Thu, 1

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Jonathan Imber
Jeff, Great tip, I will probably add sendmail also. !VERITAS will presumably exclude volume manager also. I hope they don't decide to rebadge the product as Symantec. Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff A. Earickson S

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Jeff A. Earickson
Yup, I got screwed by the Sun Veritas patch one time, overlaying my Symantec version of Netbackup. Luckily, the patch backed out and everything was ok. Jeff Earickson On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Jonathan Imber wrote: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:56:14 +0100 From: Jonathan Imber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Greg Matthews
Jeff A. Earickson wrote: Jonathan, I put the following line in my .pca file to avoid Veritas Netbackup and sendmail (I roll my own version of both): pattern=!VERITAS|sendmail I assume that this wont stop the kernel patches clobbering sendmail tho. The NOT VERITAS keeps the Sun version of N

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Martin Paul
I assume that this wont stop the kernel patches clobbering sendmail tho. No, which is just one of the problems with Sun stuffing application patches into the kernel patch. Another is the inability to backout e.g. just the sendmail fixes if you don't want them (buggy patches are nothing new)

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Jeff A. Earickson
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Greg Matthews wrote: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:45:01 +0100 From: Greg Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "PCA (Patch Check Advanced) Discussion" To: "PCA (Patch Check Advanced) Discussion" Subject: Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade Jeff A. Earickson wrote: Jonat

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Martin Paul
Uhhh, kernel patches don't touch sendmail -- sendmail patches do. Unfortunately this isn't true anymore. E.g. here's a list of patches which include /usr/lib/sendmail: 118833-36: SunOS 5.10: kernel patch 118855-36: SunOS 5.10_x86: kernel patch 120011-14: SunOS 5.10: kernel patch 120012-14:

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread dima . kazhdan
looks like u need to do !VRTS to be able to exclude volume manager. !VERITAS wont do it. Jonathan Imber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/14/2008 06:56 AM Please respond to "PCA \(Patch Check Advanced\) Discussion" To "'PCA (Patch Check Advanced) Discussion'" cc Subject

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Greg Matthews
Martin Paul wrote: Uhhh, kernel patches don't touch sendmail -- sendmail patches do. Unfortunately this isn't true anymore. E.g. here's a list of patches which include /usr/lib/sendmail: A recent kernel patch also included ssh changes... GREG -- Greg Matthews 01491 692445 Head

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Fredrich Maney
This isn't PCA's fault. It has to do with Sun providing patches for third party products in the same channel as patches for Sun products. You can edit the patchdiag.xref file, but it is royal pain (it won't open in vi due to the line length restrictions) and you would have to remember to do every

Re: [pca] Accidental Netbackup upgrade

2008-08-14 Thread Jonathan Imber
All, I have been playing with the pca.conf file today and it's now working a treat. Nothing we can do about the kernel patch, but defiantly one to be aware of. We will be looking to use the missingrs option and then only install other patches if really necessary. Thanks to everyone for you adv

[pca] full patches

2008-08-14 Thread Russell Millard Oliver
In the special notes in patches, there are often notes that say "to get the complete fix for..., please install the following patches:" How do folks generally handle those? Does anyone go through each and every note and make sure those patches are all installed and if not, why not? And what about

Re: [pca] full patches

2008-08-14 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Russell Millard Oliver wrote: > In the special notes in patches, there are often notes that say "to get > the complete fix for..., please install the following patches:" How do > folks generally handle those? I share your pain; what is the point of having included dependency