Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: (I hope you don't mind if I bring that back to the list) On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 15:50 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: - Original message - On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 15:31 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: - Original message --

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
(I hope you don't mind if I bring that back to the list) On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 15:50 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > - Original message - > > On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 15:31 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > - Original message - > > > > On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 18:02 -0500

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 18:02 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > It was changed to work on GNOME/metacity, which is the default on > Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, etc. So it is by far and away the most > common. Since it is going to be different with each window manager, I > think it make

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:11 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 01/22/2011 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It was changed to work on GNOME/metacity, which is the default on Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, etc. So it is by far and away the most common. iirc, gnome is only widespread in the US

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-22 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 01/22/2011 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > It was changed to work on GNOME/metacity, which is the default on > Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, etc. So it is by far and away the most > common. iirc, gnome is only widespread in the US, whereas europe (and esp. german speaking commun

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It was changed to work on GNOME/metacity, which is the default on Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, etc. So it is by far and away the most common. Since it is going to be different with each window manager, I think it makes sense to have the defaults work for the most people. .hc On Jan 21

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 17:04 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Its a tricky issue because its different which each window manager. > So I think the best way to address it, in the short run at least, is > for people to figure out the settings that work best with their window > manager. >

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its a tricky issue because its different which each window manager. So I think the best way to address it, in the short run at least, is for people to figure out the settings that work best with their window manager. I guess we should make it possible to set this stuff in a plugin, so a

[PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi It seems that since Pd 0.43 a Pd file does not save the window manager window position and size anymore (at least on linux), but instead the position and the size of the canvas, i.e. the white patching area. This has some implications. Since window decorations (title bar, window borders) have