Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: Miller Puckette > Cc: Jonathan Wilkes ; Lorenzo Sutton > ; "pd-dev@iem.at" > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:34 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into &

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-28 Thread Miller Puckette
> > > > But the question of how to smoothly update table graphics without messing up > > real-time behavior is still wode open. > > Ideally there would be some way of sharing the table memory with the GUI > process. Then the GUI process would just read that table using the clock of > the scree

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 28, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > >>> >>> Why not use the same throttling mechanism Miller put for data structures >>> for iemguis and see if it's suitable? >>> >>> I think what you'll find is that this is a c

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: >> >> Why not use the same throttling mechanism Miller put for data structures >> for iemguis and see if it's suitable? >> >> I think what you'll find is that this is a complex problem, and you certainly >> won't get a consensus that "just mak

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-28 Thread Miller Puckette
I don't know any good way to do that. But in general memory alocation also should be done in advance if you want robust real-time behavior, so in practice I'd make a list of the lengths of each readable soundfile in advance. cheers Miller > >> > >> [1]  Hm... rather than threaded... what if yo

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Miller Puckette > To: Jonathan Wilkes > Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner ; Lorenzo Sutton > ; "pd-dev@iem.at" > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into &

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-28 Thread Miller Puckette
> > Why not use the same throttling mechanism Miller put for data structures > for iemguis and see if it's suitable? > > I think what you'll find is that this is a complex problem, and you certainly > won't get a consensus that "just make the gui get out of the way for the > sound" > is the righ

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: Lorenzo Sutton > Cc: pd-dev@iem.at > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into > visual array > > > I think everyone

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
gt;>>> >>>>>> At arraysize = 4353 I get frozen array for full range >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course if I try to move the number box down with arraysize at 4352 >>>>>> I get freezes. >>>>>>

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-26 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
athan Wilkes wrote: It updates fine with 0.43.1-extended-20120815 on Wheezy, even at [metro 2] although I start getting sluggishness with that setting. -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner To: pd-dev List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 24,

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-25 Thread Miller Puckette
's obviously an update rate x under which it no longer sends updates, > >>> and I guess for the size you chose that's it. > >>> > >>> How does other software like Supercllider deal with scope updates? > >>> > >>> > >>>

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
ate x under which it no longer sends updates, >>> and I guess for the size you chose that's it. >>> >>> How does other software like Supercllider deal with scope updates? >>> >>> >>> -Jonathan >>> >>> >>> - Original Me

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-25 Thread Miller Puckette
> >>> various > >>> 'artefacts'. > >>> > >>> Lorenzo > >>> > >>> On 25/10/12 04:28, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >>>> It updates fine with 0.43.1-extended-20120815 on Wheezy, even at > >&g

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
gt;> To: pd-dev@iem.at >> Cc: >> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into >> visual array >> >> >> OK, this is strange. Lorenzo's patch works fine on mine too, down to 2

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: pd-dev@iem.at > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into > visual array > > > OK, this is strange.  Lorenzo's patch works fine on mine too, down to 2ms.

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
o 2] >> although I >> start getting sluggishness with that setting. >> >> -Jonathan >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>> To: pd-dev List >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Wednesday, October

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
with that setting. >> >> -Jonathan >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>> To: pd-dev List >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:33 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavi

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-25 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
works all the way down to 2 msec, of course with various 'artefacts'. Lorenzo -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner To: pd-dev List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
ubject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into > visual array > > > No ideas on this one?  It is a serious bug since it means that arrays stop > being drawn at all when banged often than 100ms. > > .hc > > On 10/08/2012 12:26 PM, Hans-Chr

Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
No ideas on this one? It is a serious bug since it means that arrays stop being drawn at all when banged often than 100ms. .hc On 10/08/2012 12:26 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > I've noticed that if you bang a [tabwrite~ array1] more often than about > 100ms, the array that its writing

[PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

2012-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I've noticed that if you bang a [tabwrite~ array1] more often than about 100ms, the array that its writing to will not send updates to the GUI. It seems that its a kind of a fade out with [metro 100] seems to send all updates, [metro 98.8] send some updates and [metro 95] sends basically none.