[PD-dev] pdlua in pd-extended

2011-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
FYI, I'm planning on making the pdlua loader start by default in Pd- extended 0.43. That means that people can easily write and distribute Pd objects written in Lua. I hope we can also get tclpd included as well. .hc --

[PD-dev] iemguts release?

2011-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey IOhannes, I think iemguts is ready primetime, I think it should be included in the next Pd-extended 0.43 release. Do you have any plans on making an official release? .hc "Free software means you control wh

[PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
IOhannes and I were discussing how to load shared code for a libdir on IRC. The sticking point is that Mac OS X seems to require dylibs to have a hard-coded path. IOhannes posted a test lib to try to work out how to do it using DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH: http://iem.at/~zmoelnig/OSX/test.tgz So

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 26, 2011, at 2:42 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/26/2011 06:52 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: IOhannes and I were discussing how to load shared code for a libdir on IRC. The sticking point is that Mac OS X seems to require

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ricardo, This is great news! Yes, its true, the sources are a bit confusing. Website updates are a good thing. If you are talking about Pd- extended, then all sources are from https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk , except for the core 'pd' part, which is from

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's a good break down of the issues. I'll checkout @loader_path. The @executable_path technique has been in Pd-extended for a long time, check out all of the libs in Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib by doing something like: otool -L /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libavcodec.5

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I found this very useful too: http://www.mikeash.com/pyblog/friday-qa-2009-11-06-linking-and-install-names.html I want to continue to support 10.4 as the minimum, but 10.5 introduced @rpath, which is supposed to work better: http://www.dribin.org/dave/blog/archives/2009/11/15/rpath/ .hc O

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
early for commit privileges, given that I haven't even settled on a workflow. Best regards, Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Ricardo, This is great news! Yes, its true, the so

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just pushed a commit to 'newentry' branch of tkwidgets that implements the @loader_path thing. It seems to work! Next, GNU/ Linux! tkwidgets builds and links to the tkwidgets.so now on GNU/Linux. .hc On Sep 27, 2011, at 3:42 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
which should be simple, similar to pix_opencv, if only pd would run out of /usr/local which it isn't. I appreciate any help, even if just a small guiding remark. Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 28, 2011, at 3:15 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-27 21:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's a good break down of the issues. I'll checkout @loader_path. The @executable_path technique has been in Pd-extended

[PD-dev] how to produce a clean JPEG example video

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Pd-extended includes the midr-mjpeg.mov file which is meant to be an all-purpose, work-everywhere example video. It hasn't quite reached that goal. It seems it has an odd YUV encoding. Can anyone tell me what the best format for this video should be? ideally it'd be in the form of an f

Re: [PD-dev] Unit tests

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 28, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: (moving this thread off of pd-list and onto pd-dev...) On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:55:09AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't see any unit tests. Are there any? There isn't really any unified test method. I thin

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
mall improvements and documentation, for a start. SF user: ricardofabbri. Optionally, Vilson's SF user: vilsonvieira and My brother's: greenkobold Best regards, Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner &

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
, Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Ricardo, I proposed the rsync method as the easiest way to get started. But yes, it doesn't work for development. For the most part, when doing dev wo

Re: [PD-dev] Unit tests

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:08:49PM -0400, Chris McCormick wrote: Good point. I am now sending Marvin a copy of the WebPd unit test patches licensed under BSD-3. Cool! I'm excited to look through these materials. I'm a Pd noob with a

Re: [PD-dev] Including iemnet in Pd-extended

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Fine by me, if you are the maintainer. I was also thinking of adding Martin's 'net' library as its own thing. And since we're on the topic, I was not happy how the iemnet fork happened, I think it was disrespectful of Martin. .hc On Sep 29, 2011, at 5:22 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi Ha

[PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Roman, I just saw this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/Makefile?r1=15393&r2=15397 .la files generally should not be installed, that makes sense to me. This seems like a heavy hand to do a global deletion for something like this. The probl

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:49 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2011 03:07 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ah, ok, that changes things. So you are sure there isn't a way to make this work? on, i'm not sure. i only reported iss

Re: [PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 11:37 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-29 17:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Roman, I just saw this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/Makefile?r1=15393&r2=1

Re: [PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 11:52 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-29 17:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: What is the problem this is trying to solve? How are the .la files causing problems ? The Pd-extended is crufty enough as it is with

[PD-dev] macosx104-i386 is now macosx105-i386

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
FYI, I upgraded the Mac OS X 10.4 i386 build server to 10.5.8, since there are some APIs that are needed that were introduced on 10.5. I'm planning on keeping the ppc build machine at 10.4 (I should reboot that so it works again...) .hc --

Re: [PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 12:00 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 29, 2011, at 11:52 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-29 17:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: What is the problem

Re: [PD-dev] Unit tests

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 01:04:12AM -0400, Chris McCormick wrote: Argh, please hold on a second. I have just realised that I do not have the authority to do this. I should have asked two other people who contributed unit tests. Sorry about

[PD-dev] symlinks in zexy svn

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now I see the root of the unfold-help.pd issue, zexy relies on symlinks that are checked into svn. That'll work fine on UNIX, but is very unpredictable in Windows. For example, a Windows svn client might check them out by copying them. A cygwin svn client might check them out directly, but then

Re: [PD-dev] symlinks in zexy svn

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 17:07 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/30/2011 04:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > Now I see the root of the unfold-help.pd issue, zexy relies on symlinks > > that are c

[PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So with all the hassle over symlinks, there is a different issue stopping things on MinGW. This seems to be the exact same issue as Gem was having. You can see the environment of the build in the build log, if that's useful. libtool: compile: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I/home/pd/auto-build/

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 17:35 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/30/2011 05:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > So with all the hassle over symlinks, there is a different issue > > stopping things on

Re: [PD-dev] Text box keybinding silent failure

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hm, this might point to what Ctrl-A isn't going to Home on Mac OS X. Basically, this bind command replaces any binding: $tkcanvas bind $mytag "$tkcanvas icursor $mytag 0" Adding a + to the beginning of the bind function makes it append to the existing list of bindings $tkcanvas b

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 18:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/30/2011 06:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > pddev@windowsxp-i386:~$ svn --version > > svn, version 1.6.1 (r37116) > &g

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 18:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/30/2011 06:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > pddev@windowsxp-i386:~$ svn --version > > svn, version 1.6.1 (r37116) > &g

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 18:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/30/2011 06:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > pddev@windowsxp-i386:~$ svn --version > > svn, version 1.6.1 (r37116) > &g

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Katja, This is great, just starting to dig into it. Its a great write-up too. I'd like to put together some Pd-extended nightly builds based on this, and start working out a work flow for all the fixes that we will inevitably need to do. To start with, I think you should request SVN commit

Re: [PD-dev] commit access + intro

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ricardo, Welcome, its great to have you working on Pd! This Lab Macambira sounds very promising. The way things work with getting SVN access is 'lazy consensus'. Basically we wait for a while and if no one objects, an admin will add you as a committer. Since you are new to contributing to P

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 18:40 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/30/2011 08:23 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > I tried --disable-rpath, but it said it wasn't a ./configure option. > > Its a recommen

Re: [PD-dev] commit access + intro

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
ng with just died, > so I am having this transition time to deal with anyways. Soon enough > I'll come up with the patches. If there is any bug specifically you'd > like to see fixed, let me know and maybe I can give a shot at it. > > Best, > > On Saturday, October 1

[PD-dev] updating pd/ in SVN to the most recent releases.

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Miller, I was wondering if you had any plans of updating the 'pd/' section of SVN where you used to push your changes. If not, would you mind if I updated it with the latest release tarballs? .hc ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://list

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:49 AM, "IOhannes m zmölnig" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/28/2011 03:07 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > Ah, ok, that changes things. So you are sure there isn't a way to

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-10-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
t are more than welcome. Best regards, Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: I actually use all three: - links in pd-extended.git/extra - work on libs directly in their folder in pure-data/tru

[PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
FYI: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-10-02/logs/2011-10-02_03.15.26_darwin_macosx105-i386_pd-extended.txt cd /Users/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/zexy && ./autogen.sh PATH: /sw/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin running autoreconf autoreconf: Entering direct

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds great. I'm happy to help setup a git repo if you want me too. github and gitorious are pretty straightforward to get the initial repo, then it would be a matter of pushing the pure-data.git to that repo, and starting work from there. I think it makes sense to work off of pure-da

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 9:12 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 14:28, katja wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: I think it makes sense to work off of pure-data.git rather than pd-extended.git since t

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28 AM, katja wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think it makes sense to work off of pure-data.git rather than pd-extended.git since this is a patch targetted at getting into Miller's repo. Right. Even then, we could add

Re: [PD-dev] w32 PdLab machine broken (was Re: w32 PdLab machine down?)

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 5:53 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 11:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: when i try to login to the machine, i get: Uptime for this computer is 10 [main] gawk 2200 C:\cygwin\bin\gawk.exe: *** fatal error - Creat

Re: [PD-dev] Help for sourceforge.net

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Looks like it was set to Pending, do you still need help with it? .hc On Oct 3, 2011, at 2:28 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi all A bug was assigned to me and the issue can be closed now. However, I cannot figure out a way to change the status of the issue. Probably I'm missing the proper pri

Re: [PD-dev] Help for sourceforge.net

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 11:21 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 17:16, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 10:47 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Looks like it was set to Pending, do you still need help with it? No, that is

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think for now, we'll just have Pd-extended-like monolithic builds which will be easy to use on their own and will include enough libraries to be useful. They can be run standalone, and if need be, we can disable things like ~/pd-externals quite easily. These kinds of deployment issues

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Charles Henry wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 16:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These all sound like good ideas to try. My only concern is that we might let

[PD-dev] performance testing WAS: double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:21 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:04, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one online with ssh

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:04 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one online with ssh access, if that's useful. I've mailed Joe White with the question if he can patc

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
More on actually trying the patch. I tried to apply it to the HEAD of pure-data.git, and one section failed: pd@debian-lenny-i386 src $ patch -p1 < ../../pd_doubleready/ make_Pd_core_0430_double_ready.patch patching file d_array.c patching file d_math.c patching file d_misc.c Hunk #2 FAILE

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 5:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-02 22:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-10-02/logs/2011-10-02_03.15.26_darwin_macosx105-i386_pd-extended.txt hmm, i cannot

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's "-stdlib"? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @pd-dev: in the course of making packages for debian, we discovered another slight problem with the "-stdpath" and "-stdlib" flags for declare (and probably this also expands to the "-nostdpath

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:22 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 19:19, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-10-03 18:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't really know why this is happening, but I do know that the ./autogen.sh in

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 00:56 +0200, katja wrote: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:08 PM, katja wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:21 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > >> apropos performance: > >> on my i5 650 @ 3.2GHz, running debian > >> and trying to osc-delay-perfotest.pd (with only 400 osc-delay

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-04 09:06, katja wrote: Yesterday I forgot to mention why it should definitely not be built with -O0 (unless for debug purposes): PD_BIGORSMALL is defined an ah yes, this was inde

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's "-stdlib"? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 13:06 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @pd-dev: in the course of making packages for debian, we discovered another

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's "-stdlib"? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 09:45 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I'm all for [import] and I also think it is much nicer to use, but unfortunately it is not (yet) part of vanilla. And y

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:19 AM, András Murányi wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 18:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:04 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:54 AM, András Murányi wrote: 2011/10/4 Hans-Christoph Steiner On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:19 AM, András Murányi wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 18:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:04 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans

[PD-dev] PdLab news: macosx105-i386, windowsxp-i386 and pd-double

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
In PdLab build farm news: - macosx105-i386 is back in action, I guess it crashed, I just rebooted it - windowsxp-i386 I upgraded the Cygwin from 1.5 to 1.7, I hope that makes the cygwin stuff work smoother. - there is now a 'pd-double' build, which is pure-data.git with Katja's double-

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-3417757 ] better install instructions to pix_opencv

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Lluis, I'm doing well, good to hear from you! I've joined the baby club, I have a two month old son named Johann. :-D Hope your baby is still keeping you happy About the tracker, it is just information. You'll need to make any commits yourself. Its basically like a web forum. .

[PD-dev] nightly builds should now have debug symbols

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I tried to fix up the CFLAGS last night so that all of the nightly builds would have full debug symbols on all platforms. Give it a try and let me know if it works for you. .hc Mistrust authority - promote decen

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:06 PM, katja wrote: Forgot to mention this: at start up there's a logpost (level 3) 'PD_FLOATPRECISION=32 bits' for single and 'PD_FLOATPRECISION=64 bits' for double build. Ah, so tomorrow a single and double precision build will automatically be made? Cool. It's con

Re: [PD-dev] nightly builds should now have debug symbols

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
in ?? () from c:\Users\q\Desktop\Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111004\bin\pd.dll (gdb) Il 04/10/2011 23:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto: I tried to fix up the CFLAGS last night so that all of the nightly builds would have full debug symbols on all platforms. Give it a try and let me know if it

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:05 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 5:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-02 22:27, Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:40 AM, katja wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: the proper way is to use CPPFLAGS="-DPD_FLOAT_PRECISION=64", But now you undo the CPPFLAGS as defined in the makefile. I didn't know how to add to the CFLAGS from the command line, but f

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:08 AM, katja wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So you are saying that the stuff in pd-double is not building using 64-bit floats? I downloaded Pd-0.43.1-double-20111003-macosx106-x86_64.dmg from the auto-build and this one was

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:45 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-05 18:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:05 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: The logfile I see says its set to: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/sw/bin:/sw

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/05/2011 09:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:45 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:37 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/05/2011 12:40 PM, katja wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig > > wrote: > > > >> the proper way is to use CPPFLAGS="-DPD_FLOAT_PRECISION=64", > >

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 22:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/05/2011 10:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED M

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 17:03 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 22:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 10/05/2011 10:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > On Wed, 2

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 00:33 +0200, katja wrote: > 2011/10/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner : > > > I removed the old build system from pd-double.git and pushed the change. > > Hopefully that'll reduce confusion. > > Yeah I was using the old build system all the time becaus

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 06:53 -0300, Ricardo Fabbri wrote: > Hey Hans, > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > SVN is a lot > > easier than git, and I figure anyone how knows 'git svn' doesn't need > > to have it docum

[PD-dev] Pd-extended's "make clean" actually cleans

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I did a little testing with rsync --dry-run, and fixed the last remaining issues to the running "make clean" in packages/*/Makefile. So now you can actually run "make clean" and start again without having to run the rsync script :) .hc --

Re: [PD-dev] I have 3 broken installs [was: Re: double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks]

2011-10-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 6, 2011, at 12:19 PM, András Murányi wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one online with ssh access, if that's useful. I've mailed Joe White with the question if he can patch the code for libpd and check performance on ARM. He has done some e

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, my 64-bit detection on Mac OS X is somewhat weak because it just looks at the OS major version. It automatically enables double-precision on Mac OS X 10.6 or above. And below 10.6, it defaults to single precision. 10.5 did not fully support 64-bit, so I think this makes sense for the auto

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 09:34 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/05/2011 11:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Perhaps your zexy scripts are modifying the build environment? It first > > why do you think so.

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 20:39 +0200, katja wrote: > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > But I guess then these nightly builds don't help you that much, since > > you're on 10.5. > > In itself Pd-0.43.1-double-20111007-macosx106-x8

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 21:21 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 02:12 +0200, katja wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > > wrote: > > > > > I think this is caused by using the 10.6 build on 10.5. It is o

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 8, 2011, at 4:29 AM, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Unfortunately, the rest of the code is in a separate repo, and its svn. You can get SVN commit access by requesting it: Oh yeah, sorry, forgot about that for a moment. Very

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 7, 2011, at 8:13 PM, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think this is caused by using the 10.6 build on 10.5. It is only partially compatible. Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111002.app, an x86_64 build, tries to load libs from Pd-extended.app

Re: [PD-dev] Shrink s_utf8.[ch]?

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
We talked a bunch in #dataflow on this topic, so I thought I'd post the transcript here: creamygoodness IRC 11:16:06 mescalinum: I'm curious whether the patch to s_utf8.c I supplied eliminates the segfault you described the other day. mescalinum IRC 11:38:33 creamygoodness, I'm unable to

Re: [PD-dev] pd source - trying to understand m_mainloop() and sched_tick()

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think that stuff is the polling versus callback scheduling when talking to the audio device. If you look in the audio preferences, there is a check box that says "use callbacks". My guess is that will enable m_callbackscheduler(). .hc On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Rich E wrote: Hi a

Re: [PD-dev] Fwd: pd double autobuilds

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:22 AM, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: And yes, vanilla/ is an experiment in splitting out the internals into a library. This allows people to write highly optimized versions of it for specific situations, like specific

[PD-dev] tclpd works!

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Federico, Tclpd is working on Mac OS X, very exciting. I was just going through your examples, and I wanted to report some errors, some minor, some major. Which reminds me, do you know about logpost()? It allows you to post at different levels, like normal, debug, error, etc. For t

[PD-dev] pd-double builds are actually double now

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, I just tested the Mac OS X 64-bit build of Pd-double and it is indeed double precision. I say we start announcing it and spreading the word to get people testing it, and maybe fixing up their code and/ or contributing to fixing things. Katya, do you want to post such an announcement t

Re: [PD-dev] Patch tracker usage

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 9, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2011-10-09 12:54 Message: This sounds great, I'll include it in Pd-extended and we'll see how it does there. The only problem is that there are two patches included in th

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double build still having single externals

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Indeed, its true. That's a tricky problem. I think I got it right this time, I just pushed my commit to github. Basically, I made it so PD_FLOAT_PRECISION is set in m_pd.h based on the bitness of the build, but can be overridden by externally setting PD_FLOAT_PRECISION. So the ./confi

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double builds are actually double now

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:14 PM, katja wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, I just tested the Mac OS X 64-bit build of Pd-double and it is indeed double precision. I say we start announcing it and spreading the word to get people testing it, and maybe

Re: [PD-dev] loadbang and sys_vgui

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You could try listening for the <> event. That gets sent once the GUI is done loading a patch. Its from. ::pdtk_canvas::finished_loading_file. .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi, I've run into an issue with my tooltips when using manual mode: [loadbang] |

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:47 +0200, katja wrote: > Today I wanted to find out what cyclone needs to be made > double-precision-ready. To start with, I tried to just build the > current code together with the pd-double core. I followed the howto on > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdE

Re: [PD-dev] loadbang and sys_vgui

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Wilkes wrote: Thanks, Hans. But then how would I override the normal loadbang behavior for that one particular canvas method? -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner To: Jonathan Wilkes Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at" Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:25 PM Subject:

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:14 PM, katja wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: Cyclone has its own layout and build system that is pretty elaborate, and is different when its installed. For Pd-extended I've actually wrapped the build system in miXed

Re: [PD-dev] recent pd-double nightly builds crash at start up

2011-10-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's the 10.6 compatibilily issue I was talking about. Try searching for that error message, and you should find what I mean. apparently 10.6 loads dynamic libraries differently than 10.5. .hc On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:27 PM, katja wrote: Hans, pd-double x86_64 nightly builds crash on my

[PD-dev] "load every help" logs now posted to autobuild.puredata.info

2011-10-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I've been working a bit on some testing scripts for Pd-extended. Currently, the main one is load_every_help.py, which does just that: it loads every help file included in Pd-extended, and checks the output. If there is output, it adds that output to the log. The log is upload

Re: [PD-dev] recent pd-double nightly builds crash at start up

2011-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:49 AM, katja wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's the 10.6 compatibilily issue I was talking about. Try searching for that error message, and you should find what I mean. apparently 10.6 loads dynamic libr

[PD-dev] adding an "Open" method to pdlua and tclpd

2011-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now that pdlua and tclpd are officially part of Pd-extended, I just had a little thought/feature request to make working with those objects easier. It would be very nice if you could right-click on the object, and click "Open" and have Pd open the script file in the associated editor. Y

[PD-dev] CLR loader in Pd-extended?

2011-10-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now that Martin has nailed now pdlua and its loaded by default in Pd- extended 0.43, and Federico is fixing the last bugs in tclpd and it'll be loaded by default soon, I also remember that Thomas Grill wrote the CLR loader for languages like C#. Thomas, or anyone, what's the status of tha

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