[PD-dev] automated library updates WAS: pd-extended 0.43 release push

2011-09-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
a user perspective, e.g. being able to seeing available libraries, downloading and updating them. I'm looking into adding git support in the app I'm writing. Cheers, Joe On 13 September 2011 19:43, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Joe

Re: [PD-dev] automated library updates WAS: pd-extended 0.43 release push

2011-09-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
forgot to mention that http://puredata.info is down for me at the moment so I couldn't checkout the library information held there. On 14 September 2011 15:44, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think that at this point, Jonathan Wilkes is the expert

[PD-dev] click-drag behavior

2011-09-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
One thing that often bugs me when editing is the click-n-drag behavior of objects. Here's the outline: click and release unselected object * mouse down selects the object * mouse up selects the text click and release selected object

Re: [PD-dev] click-drag behavior

2011-09-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
if there was a click followed by a drag. click then mouseup should stay the same. .hc On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 15:21 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: One thing that often bugs me when editing is the click-n-drag behavior of objects. Here's the outline: click and release unselected object

[PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI

2011-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am thinking for the next release of Pd-extended, that the preferences panels for loading libs and adding paths should be removed. [import] and [declare] cover all it can do in a better way, and people who really want to have libs and paths loaded globally on start-up can use either a manually

Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI

2011-09-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
For next Pd-extended release, the same set of libraries that have been loading automatically at start-up would continue to be loaded as usual. It is just that there wouldn't be a GUI for people to modify that list of libraries that are loaded at startup. I think most Pd-extended users don't use

Re: [PD-dev] pd-0.43.0 port to NetBSD

2011-09-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 18, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Thomas Klausner wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 06:00:00PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: Perhaps the easiest way is to let configure check for alloca.h and stdlib.h and include one or the other, depending on what's available on the system. Would you like diffs for

Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI

2011-09-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That would be one approach... .hc On Sep 19, 2011, at 8:02 PM, András Murányi wrote: Just a silly idea... (attached) Andras On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 19:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Miller, I actually think this would make switching between vanilla and extended

Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI

2011-09-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 09:31 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-19 19:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Miller, I actually think this would make switching between vanilla and extended easier because it would make people

Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI

2011-09-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
that there isn't a magic library fairy that loads everything, but it helps you cope with the first steps. If anybody made PD that broken out of the box it would require lots of work to fix in order to make it fit to teach with again. On 2011-09-19 19:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote

Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI

2011-09-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
for the simplification. cheers Miller On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:58:47AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Please give an example of how this would make this more confusing. My experience is the exact opposite and it is exactly this problem that leads me to want to remove those preferences

Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI

2011-09-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
suggest that, if you wnt to not have startup lib loading in the GUI it should get cleaned out of the preferences too - but I suspect you've already thought of that. cheers Miller On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:37:32PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Miller, If I follow what

Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI

2011-09-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
up some buggy externals. Then, I want to be able to work quickly--*not* correctly. Chuck On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: For this situation, I think there is no need for custom paths, you can use the built-in default paths, which

Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI

2011-09-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 13:19 -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Cc: pd-dev@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd

[PD-dev] pdlua in pd-extended

2011-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
FYI, I'm planning on making the pdlua loader start by default in Pd- extended 0.43. That means that people can easily write and distribute Pd objects written in Lua. I hope we can also get tclpd included as well. .hc

[PD-dev] iemguts release?

2011-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey IOhannes, I think iemguts is ready primetime, I think it should be included in the next Pd-extended 0.43 release. Do you have any plans on making an official release? .hc Free software means you control

[PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
IOhannes and I were discussing how to load shared code for a libdir on IRC. The sticking point is that Mac OS X seems to require dylibs to have a hard-coded path. IOhannes posted a test lib to try to work out how to do it using DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH: http://iem.at/~zmoelnig/OSX/test.tgz

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 26, 2011, at 2:42 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/26/2011 06:52 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: IOhannes and I were discussing how to load shared code for a libdir on IRC. The sticking point is that Mac OS X seems to require

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ricardo, This is great news! Yes, its true, the sources are a bit confusing. Website updates are a good thing. If you are talking about Pd- extended, then all sources are from https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk , except for the core 'pd' part, which is from

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's a good break down of the issues. I'll checkout @loader_path. The @executable_path technique has been in Pd-extended for a long time, check out all of the libs in Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib by doing something like: otool -L

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
for commit privileges, given that I haven't even settled on a workflow. Best regards, Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Ricardo, This is great news! Yes, its true, the sources

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
to pix_opencv, if only pd would run out of /usr/local which it isn't. I appreciate any help, even if just a small guiding remark. Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Ricardo

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 28, 2011, at 3:15 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-27 21:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's a good break down of the issues. I'll checkout @loader_path. The @executable_path technique has been in Pd-extended for a long

[PD-dev] how to produce a clean JPEG example video

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Pd-extended includes the midr-mjpeg.mov file which is meant to be an all-purpose, work-everywhere example video. It hasn't quite reached that goal. It seems it has an odd YUV encoding. Can anyone tell me what the best format for this video should be? ideally it'd be in the form of an

Re: [PD-dev] Unit tests

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 28, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: (moving this thread off of pd-list and onto pd-dev...) On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:55:09AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't see any unit tests. Are there any? There isn't really any unified test method. I think the zexy

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
: vilsonvieira and My brother's: greenkobold Best regards, Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: The easiest way to get started build Pd-extended is how the nightly builds

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
, Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Ricardo, I proposed the rsync method as the easiest way to get started. But yes, it doesn't work for development. For the most part, when doing

Re: [PD-dev] Unit tests

2011-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:08:49PM -0400, Chris McCormick wrote: Good point. I am now sending Marvin a copy of the WebPd unit test patches licensed under BSD-3. Cool! I'm excited to look through these materials. I'm a Pd noob with a

Re: [PD-dev] Including iemnet in Pd-extended

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Fine by me, if you are the maintainer. I was also thinking of adding Martin's 'net' library as its own thing. And since we're on the topic, I was not happy how the iemnet fork happened, I think it was disrespectful of Martin. .hc On Sep 29, 2011, at 5:22 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi

[PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Roman, I just saw this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/Makefile?r1=15393r2=15397 .la files generally should not be installed, that makes sense to me. This seems like a heavy hand to do a global deletion for something like this. The

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:49 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2011 03:07 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ah, ok, that changes things. So you are sure there isn't a way to make this work? on, i'm not sure. i only reported issues i came

Re: [PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 11:37 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-29 17:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Roman, I just saw this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/Makefile?r1=15393r2=15397

Re: [PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 11:52 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-29 17:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: What is the problem this is trying to solve? How are the .la files causing problems ? The Pd-extended is crufty enough

[PD-dev] macosx104-i386 is now macosx105-i386

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
FYI, I upgraded the Mac OS X 10.4 i386 build server to 10.5.8, since there are some APIs that are needed that were introduced on 10.5. I'm planning on keeping the ppc build machine at 10.4 (I should reboot that so it works again...) .hc

Re: [PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 12:00 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 29, 2011, at 11:52 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-29 17:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: What is the problem

Re: [PD-dev] Unit tests

2011-09-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 29, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 01:04:12AM -0400, Chris McCormick wrote: Argh, please hold on a second. I have just realised that I do not have the authority to do this. I should have asked two other people who contributed unit tests. Sorry

[PD-dev] symlinks in zexy svn

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now I see the root of the unfold-help.pd issue, zexy relies on symlinks that are checked into svn. That'll work fine on UNIX, but is very unpredictable in Windows. For example, a Windows svn client might check them out by copying them. A cygwin svn client might check them out directly, but

Re: [PD-dev] symlinks in zexy svn

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 17:07 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2011 04:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Now I see the root of the unfold-help.pd issue, zexy relies on symlinks that are checked into svn. That'll work fine on UNIX

[PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So with all the hassle over symlinks, there is a different issue stopping things on MinGW. This seems to be the exact same issue as Gem was having. You can see the environment of the build in the build log, if that's useful. libtool: compile: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 17:35 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2011 05:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So with all the hassle over symlinks, there is a different issue stopping things on MinGW. and how does this relate (e.g

Re: [PD-dev] Text box keybinding silent failure

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hm, this might point to what Ctrl-A isn't going to Home on Mac OS X. Basically, this bind command replaces any binding: $tkcanvas bind $mytag Control-a $tkcanvas icursor $mytag 0 Adding a + to the beginning of the bind function makes it append to the existing list of bindings

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 18:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2011 06:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: pddev@windowsxp-i386:~$ svn --version svn, version 1.6.1 (r37116) compiled Apr 11 2009, 12:07:06 thanks. however, i

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 18:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2011 06:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: pddev@windowsxp-i386:~$ svn --version svn, version 1.6.1 (r37116) compiled Apr 11 2009, 12:07:06 thanks. however, i

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 18:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2011 06:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: pddev@windowsxp-i386:~$ svn --version svn, version 1.6.1 (r37116) compiled Apr 11 2009, 12:07:06 thanks. however, i

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Katja, This is great, just starting to dig into it. Its a great write-up too. I'd like to put together some Pd-extended nightly builds based on this, and start working out a work flow for all the fixes that we will inevitably need to do. To start with, I think you should request SVN commit

Re: [PD-dev] commit access + intro

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ricardo, Welcome, its great to have you working on Pd! This Lab Macambira sounds very promising. The way things work with getting SVN access is 'lazy consensus'. Basically we wait for a while and if no one objects, an admin will add you as a committer. Since you are new to contributing to

Re: [PD-dev] zexy: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 18:40 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2011 08:23 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I tried --disable-rpath, but it said it wasn't a ./configure option. Its a recommended thing for MinGW: the --disable-rpath

Re: [PD-dev] commit access + intro

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
, so I am having this transition time to deal with anyways. Soon enough I'll come up with the patches. If there is any bug specifically you'd like to see fixed, let me know and maybe I can give a shot at it. Best, On Saturday, October 1, 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hey

[PD-dev] updating pd/ in SVN to the most recent releases.

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Miller, I was wondering if you had any plans of updating the 'pd/' section of SVN where you used to push your changes. If not, would you mind if I updated it with the latest release tarballs? .hc ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:49 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2011 03:07 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ah, ok, that changes things. So you are sure there isn't a way to make this work? on, i'm

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-10-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
regards, Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I actually use all three: - links in pd-extended.git/extra - work on libs directly in their folder in pure-data/trunk/externals - test

[PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
FYI: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-10-02/logs/2011-10-02_03.15.26_darwin_macosx105-i386_pd-extended.txt cd /Users/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/zexy ./autogen.sh PATH: /sw/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin running autoreconf autoreconf: Entering

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds great. I'm happy to help setup a git repo if you want me too. github and gitorious are pretty straightforward to get the initial repo, then it would be a matter of pushing the pure-data.git to that repo, and starting work from there. I think it makes sense to work off of

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28 AM, katja wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think it makes sense to work off of pure-data.git rather than pd-extended.git since this is a patch targetted at getting into Miller's repo. Right. Even then, we

Re: [PD-dev] Help for sourceforge.net

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Looks like it was set to Pending, do you still need help with it? .hc On Oct 3, 2011, at 2:28 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi all A bug was assigned to me and the issue can be closed now. However, I cannot figure out a way to change the status of the issue. Probably I'm missing the proper

Re: [PD-dev] Help for sourceforge.net

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 11:21 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 17:16, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 10:47 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Looks like it was set to Pending, do you still need help

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think for now, we'll just have Pd-extended-like monolithic builds which will be easy to use on their own and will include enough libraries to be useful. They can be run standalone, and if need be, we can disable things like ~/pd-externals quite easily. These kinds of deployment issues

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Charles Henry wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 16:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These all sound like good ideas to try. My only concern

[PD-dev] performance testing WAS: double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:21 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:04, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:04 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one online with ssh access, if that's useful. I've mailed Joe White with the question if he can

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
More on actually trying the patch. I tried to apply it to the HEAD of pure-data.git, and one section failed: pd@debian-lenny-i386 src $ patch -p1 ../../pd_doubleready/ make_Pd_core_0430_double_ready.patch patching file d_array.c patching file d_math.c patching file d_misc.c Hunk #2

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 5:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-02 22:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-10-02/logs/2011-10-02_03.15.26_darwin_macosx105-i386_pd-extended.txt hmm, i cannot

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's -stdlib? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @pd-dev: in the course of making packages for debian, we discovered another slight problem with the -stdpath and -stdlib flags for declare (and probably this also expands to the -nostdpath

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:22 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 19:19, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-10-03 18:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't really know why this is happening, but I do know that the ./autogen.sh in pure

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-04 09:06, katja wrote: Yesterday I forgot to mention why it should definitely not be built with -O0 (unless for debug purposes): PD_BIGORSMALL is defined an ah yes, this was

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's -stdlib? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 13:06 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @pd-dev: in the course of making packages for debian, we discovered another

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's -stdlib? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 09:45 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I'm all for [import] and I also think it is much nicer to use, but unfortunately it is not (yet) part of vanilla. And yes, I

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:19 AM, András Murányi wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 18:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:04 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:54 AM, András Murányi wrote: 2011/10/4 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:19 AM, András Murányi wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 18:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:04 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3

[PD-dev] PdLab news: macosx105-i386, windowsxp-i386 and pd-double

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
In PdLab build farm news: - macosx105-i386 is back in action, I guess it crashed, I just rebooted it - windowsxp-i386 I upgraded the Cygwin from 1.5 to 1.7, I hope that makes the cygwin stuff work smoother. - there is now a 'pd-double' build, which is pure-data.git with Katja's

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-3417757 ] better install instructions to pix_opencv

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Lluis, I'm doing well, good to hear from you! I've joined the baby club, I have a two month old son named Johann. :-D Hope your baby is still keeping you happy About the tracker, it is just information. You'll need to make any commits yourself. Its basically like a web forum.

[PD-dev] nightly builds should now have debug symbols

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I tried to fix up the CFLAGS last night so that all of the nightly builds would have full debug symbols on all platforms. Give it a try and let me know if it works for you. .hc Mistrust authority - promote

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:06 PM, katja wrote: Forgot to mention this: at start up there's a logpost (level 3) 'PD_FLOATPRECISION=32 bits' for single and 'PD_FLOATPRECISION=64 bits' for double build. Ah, so tomorrow a single and double precision build will automatically be made? Cool. It's

Re: [PD-dev] nightly builds should now have debug symbols

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
c:\Users\q\Desktop\Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111004\bin\pd.dll (gdb) Il 04/10/2011 23:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto: I tried to fix up the CFLAGS last night so that all of the nightly builds would have full debug symbols on all platforms. Give it a try and let me know if it works for you

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:05 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 5:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-02 22:27, Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:40 AM, katja wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: the proper way is to use CPPFLAGS=-DPD_FLOAT_PRECISION=64, But now you undo the CPPFLAGS as defined in the makefile. I didn't know how to add to the CFLAGS from the

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:08 AM, katja wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: So you are saying that the stuff in pd-double is not building using 64-bit floats? I downloaded Pd-0.43.1-double-20111003-macosx106-x86_64.dmg from the auto-build

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:45 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-05 18:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:05 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: The logfile I see says its set to: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/sw/bin:/sw

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/2011 09:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:45 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-05

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:37 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/2011 12:40 PM, katja wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: the proper way is to use CPPFLAGS=-DPD_FLOAT_PRECISION=64,

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 22:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/2011 10:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/2011

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 17:03 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 22:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/2011 10:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 06:53 -0300, Ricardo Fabbri wrote: Hey Hans, On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: SVN is a lot easier than git, and I figure anyone how knows 'git svn' doesn't need to have it documented. That's true, but knowing a single

Re: [PD-dev] I have 3 broken installs [was: Re: double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks]

2011-10-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 6, 2011, at 12:19 PM, András Murányi wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one online with ssh access, if that's useful. I've mailed Joe White with the question if he can patch the code for libpd and check performance on ARM. He has done some

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, my 64-bit detection on Mac OS X is somewhat weak because it just looks at the OS major version. It automatically enables double-precision on Mac OS X 10.6 or above. And below 10.6, it defaults to single precision. 10.5 did not fully support 64-bit, so I think this makes sense for the

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 09:34 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/2011 11:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Perhaps your zexy scripts are modifying the build environment? It first why do you think so. have you read my email? Sorry

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 20:39 +0200, katja wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: But I guess then these nightly builds don't help you that much, since you're on 10.5. In itself Pd-0.43.1-double-20111007-macosx106-x86_64.dmg runs without trouble

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 21:21 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 02:12 +0200, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think this is caused by using the 10.6 build on 10.5. It is only partially compatible

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 8, 2011, at 4:29 AM, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Unfortunately, the rest of the code is in a separate repo, and its svn. You can get SVN commit access by requesting it: Oh yeah, sorry, forgot about that for a moment

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 7, 2011, at 8:13 PM, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think this is caused by using the 10.6 build on 10.5. It is only partially compatible. Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111002.app, an x86_64 build, tries to load libs from Pd

Re: [PD-dev] Shrink s_utf8.[ch]?

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
We talked a bunch in #dataflow on this topic, so I thought I'd post the transcript here: creamygoodness IRC 11:16:06 mescalinum: I'm curious whether the patch to s_utf8.c I supplied eliminates the segfault you described the other day. mescalinum IRC 11:38:33 creamygoodness, I'm unable to

Re: [PD-dev] pd source - trying to understand m_mainloop() and sched_tick()

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think that stuff is the polling versus callback scheduling when talking to the audio device. If you look in the audio preferences, there is a check box that says use callbacks. My guess is that will enable m_callbackscheduler(). .hc On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Rich E wrote: Hi

Re: [PD-dev] Fwd: pd double autobuilds

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:22 AM, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: And yes, vanilla/ is an experiment in splitting out the internals into a library. This allows people to write highly optimized versions of it for specific situations

[PD-dev] tclpd works!

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Federico, Tclpd is working on Mac OS X, very exciting. I was just going through your examples, and I wanted to report some errors, some minor, some major. Which reminds me, do you know about logpost()? It allows you to post at different levels, like normal, debug, error, etc. For

[PD-dev] pd-double builds are actually double now

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, I just tested the Mac OS X 64-bit build of Pd-double and it is indeed double precision. I say we start announcing it and spreading the word to get people testing it, and maybe fixing up their code and/ or contributing to fixing things. Katya, do you want to post such an announcement

Re: [PD-dev] Patch tracker usage

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 9, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2011-10-09 12:54 Message: This sounds great, I'll include it in Pd-extended and we'll see how it does there. The only problem is that there are two patches included in this tracker

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double build still having single externals

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Indeed, its true. That's a tricky problem. I think I got it right this time, I just pushed my commit to github. Basically, I made it so PD_FLOAT_PRECISION is set in m_pd.h based on the bitness of the build, but can be overridden by externally setting PD_FLOAT_PRECISION. So the

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double builds are actually double now

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:14 PM, katja wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Ok, I just tested the Mac OS X 64-bit build of Pd-double and it is indeed double precision. I say we start announcing it and spreading the word to get people testing

Re: [PD-dev] loadbang and sys_vgui

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You could try listening for the Loaded event. That gets sent once the GUI is done loading a patch. Its from. ::pdtk_canvas::finished_loading_file. .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi, I've run into an issue with my tooltips when using manual mode:

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:47 +0200, katja wrote: Today I wanted to find out what cyclone needs to be made double-precision-ready. To start with, I tried to just build the current code together with the pd-double core. I followed the howto on

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